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700 REM
Nov 21, 2009 13:18:29 GMT -5
Post by nmaineron on Nov 21, 2009 13:18:29 GMT -5
Hey to all that helped me out last fall with my conversion of my 700 to use the 209 primers.
Our ML season is about to start and I am trying to get re-educated on what I can and can't do with my new to me toy.
I will be using the 777 pellets and have some Hornady 250 gr XTP,some 245 gr hollow point Powerbelts and some 350 gr Hornady FPB.
The FPB have no sabot,do I need to run a patch? These seem like more than enough for a deer load.
How am I looking!
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700 REM
Nov 21, 2009 18:22:17 GMT -5
Post by hunter on Nov 21, 2009 18:22:17 GMT -5
The 250 xtp's have worked well for me. The powerbelts were not as accurate for me, but others like them, just do not push them to fast. I have never tried the FPB, but have a pack coming to try later after season.
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700 REM
Nov 21, 2009 19:47:27 GMT -5
Post by mountainam on Nov 21, 2009 19:47:27 GMT -5
If those are your choices, I'd stick with the 250XTP's with a harvester sabot smooth or ribbed black.I have a few Remingtons and with your pellets they should make a deadly hunting load.Good Luck!
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700 REM
Nov 21, 2009 22:52:28 GMT -5
Post by nmaineron on Nov 21, 2009 22:52:28 GMT -5
I was into one of the big box stores today that had some the same bullet with different colored sabots, one was black the other yellow and one green.I asked the floor guy in the department and he couldn't tell me if there is a difference between the colors.Sooo....
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700 REM
Nov 21, 2009 23:53:23 GMT -5
Post by mountainam on Nov 21, 2009 23:53:23 GMT -5
Harvester and MMP make sabots for other companies like T/C and mold them in a different colors.Usually the green sabots are .430 cal for .50 ML. Black usually indicates .45X.50,but then I have some .44X.50's that are black that harvester molded for T/C. I've seen yellow sabots on Barnes .45X.50 TZ's. It should state on each bag of sabots the sizes that they are supplying. But there is no hard-fast COLOR CODE so beware.
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700 REM
Nov 22, 2009 13:14:48 GMT -5
Post by nmaineron on Nov 22, 2009 13:14:48 GMT -5
Mountainam,would you please explain the .43x50,.44x50 and the .45x50.Thanks
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700 REM
Nov 22, 2009 14:56:23 GMT -5
Post by blackhawk7204 on Nov 22, 2009 14:56:23 GMT -5
That's the bullet diameter and the caliber it is to be used in. A 45x50 is a 50 caliber sabot designed to use a 45 caliber bullet. A 44x50 is the same thing but designed to use a .430 diameter (commonly called 44 caliber) bullet. Somehow the .430 diameter bullet cartridge was called 44 and a .357 diameter bullet cartridge was called a 38, I guess it just sounded better.
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700 REM
Nov 22, 2009 15:17:48 GMT -5
Post by mountainam on Nov 22, 2009 15:17:48 GMT -5
nmaineron, Blackhawk beat me to the draw,but he's right on with his explanation.
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700 REM
Nov 22, 2009 15:44:48 GMT -5
Post by nmaineron on Nov 22, 2009 15:44:48 GMT -5
Thanks,so the different colored sabots are specific to a particular caliber bullet but can be also used for a better fit for a loose or tight bore.
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700 REM
Nov 22, 2009 23:11:03 GMT -5
Post by mountainam on Nov 22, 2009 23:11:03 GMT -5
Remingtons in .50 have a larger bore than T/C's or Knight's. If you use the 250 xtp .452" bullet, you may want to try the Harvester red ribbed .45X.50 sabot. Your Remmy will have a smoother bore and this tight fitting sabot should give you great accuracy. Like I said earlier, there is no standards for COLOR CODING of sabots. If you don't have one already,may I suggest you acquire an inexpensive micrometer or vernier calipers to help you measure your bullet/sabot diameter to help you determine which combo fits your bore the tightest while still allowing consistent loading pressures.
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700 REM
Nov 23, 2009 10:40:23 GMT -5
Post by sabotloader on Nov 23, 2009 10:40:23 GMT -5
nmaineronI shoot MMP HPH-24 in all three of my Remington 700ml's - they fit sunggly but slide down just right. I also shot a .458/300 (45-70) grain Nosler for elk from the Rems with a Orange MMP sabot. Here is a chart that might tell you more...
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