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Post by hatchetjack1 on Feb 24, 2018 22:47:34 GMT -5
I did not get a warm and fuzzy from this guy when I saw him talking on TV the night of the shooting. After listening to him bash the NRA and Dan Loesch at the CNN town hall about made me sick. Now finding out more about him and his departments incompetence it all makes sense. Judge Jeanine is spot on. Check it out. video.foxnews.com/v/5739991983001/?#sp=show-clips
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Post by edge on Feb 25, 2018 5:32:25 GMT -5
He needs to go!
He kept going on CNN and saying he was outraged about his ONE officer, now we find out that there were 3 or 4 that did not engage...that goes to leadership.
edge.
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Post by tar12 on Feb 25, 2018 6:12:02 GMT -5
He needs to face criminal charges along with the 4 deputies.....they took a oath...they knew what they were signing on for and it wasnt playing patty cake.
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Post by edge on Feb 25, 2018 6:18:37 GMT -5
He needs to face criminal charges along with the 4 deputies.....they took a oath...they knew what they were signing on for and it wasnt playing patty cake. Not sure about that, the police generally have no duty to protect you personally. They have a more general duty to uphold the Law, but they have a wide latitude on how they do that. edge.
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Post by tar12 on Feb 25, 2018 6:36:51 GMT -5
He needs to face criminal charges along with the 4 deputies.....they took a oath...they knew what they were signing on for and it wasnt playing patty cake. Not sure about that, the police generally have no duty to protect you personally. They have a more general duty to uphold the Law, but they have a wide latitude on how they do that. edge. They take a oath to uphold fundamental human rights and the law of the land...my interpretation of this is to include not letting murder(s) happen right in front of them on their watch! Maybe I just dont get it how someone can let this happen when they had the power to stop it! 4 of them with no balls? If you can not count on Law Enforcement to stop these kind of threats who in the hell can we trust? The neighboring department had no qualms about acting!
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Post by edge on Feb 25, 2018 7:32:41 GMT -5
No argument here!
The law is not on our side, and IMO, the main reason the Second Amendment is a PERSONAL right! The scum that don't want people to be able to protect themselves are almost always protected with guns themselves!
You have all these companies dropping alliances with the NRA, but I bet their corporate offices have armed guards, airports have armed guards, Government buildings have armed guards, celebrities have armed security, politicians are protected with armed security!
ONLY YOU, should not be protected with firearms...according to those people that are protected!
edge.
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Post by tar12 on Feb 25, 2018 8:19:23 GMT -5
Edge... that sums up perfectly what these people are about who wish to disarm those who need firearm protections the most! These hypocrites burn me to no end! Get out and vote people! These idiots need to go! I dont know how much momentum these insane lunatics will gather in the upcoming months but they must be fought on every front...I wonder how many gun owners there are who are not NRA members? I bet it is substantial!....sign up!
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Post by dannoboone on Feb 25, 2018 13:28:07 GMT -5
In the following, even CALLING the law didn't work for schools:
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Post by edge on Feb 25, 2018 13:42:38 GMT -5
The next time a Politician mentions banning guns, mandate this gun Law:
If you are in a Gun Free Zone, and not actually protecting that site, then you must not possess a firearm!
A cop testifying in court must go through the same metal detector that everyone else does, and present his firearm before entering that facility; A Judge, while at a gun free courthouse, must not have his concealed carry, and must go through a metal detector; A Politician, while at a gun free courthouse, Statehouse or any other gun free facility, must not have his concealed carry, and must go through a metal detector.
etc, etc, etc.
Either we are all created equal or we are not!
edge.
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Post by tar12 on Feb 25, 2018 14:16:02 GMT -5
The next time a Politician mentions banning guns, mandate this gun Law: If you are in a Gun Free Zone, and not actually protecting that site, then you must not possess a firearm! A cop testifying in court must go through the same metal detector that everyone else does, and present his firearm before entering that facility; A Judge, while at a gun free courthouse, must not have his concealed carry, and must go through a metal detector; A Politician, while at a gun free courthouse, Statehouse or any other gun free facility, must not have his concealed carry, and must go through a metal detector. etc, etc, etc. Either we are all created equal or we are not! edge. You think the COWARDS of BROWARD will go for this? I am being sarcastic as hell...BTW
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Post by edge on Feb 25, 2018 14:18:34 GMT -5
You know, when I watch CNN they always have retired police, or current Police Chief's telling us how bad an idea it is for teachers to have concealed carry.
I wonder, what they would say if they were not allowed to carry off duty?
Everyone that is able to carry off duty never seems to want others to protect their family's with that same right!
Let's let FBI agents go to their office and pick up their firearm before going on duty, the same for State Troopers...I can hear the whining already!
edge.
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Post by tar12 on Feb 25, 2018 14:28:30 GMT -5
You know, when I watch CNN they always have retired police, or current Police Chief's telling us how bad an idea it is for teachers to have concealed carry. I wonder, what they would say if they were not allowed to carry off duty? Everyone that is able to carry off duty never seems to want others to protect their family's with that same right! Let's let FBI agents go to their office and pick up their firearm before going on duty, the same for State Troopers...I can hear the whining already! edge. You are forgetting how special they are....more sarcasm...
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Post by dannoboone on Feb 25, 2018 14:57:05 GMT -5
You're leaving out the anti-gun actors and singers who go out surrounded by their own armed security. Everything being equal, they should not protect while being armed.
While we're at it, tear down their security walls. If the country doesn't need a wall, why do they need walls around their property?
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Post by petev on Feb 25, 2018 15:55:46 GMT -5
It might bring home these points even more to the public if CNN etc gave equal time to the instances in which private gun owners stop crime in progress with their firearms. (Not being sacrcastic LOL).
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Post by edge on Feb 25, 2018 15:56:08 GMT -5
You're leaving out the anti-gun actors and singers who go out surrounded by their own armed security. Everything being equal, they should not protect while being armed. While we're at it, tear down their security walls. If the country doesn't need a wall, why do they need walls around their property? Mark Zuckerberg, the billionaire CEO of Facebook needs a wall to protect his Hawaii estate! Please tell me he is not special, how about Amazon Jeff Bezos? Remove any security and see how he likes to be naked? Bezos owns the Washington Post, he clearly does not want to run a newspaper, he wants to run an anti-Trump, Anti-GOP narrative! Both of those scumbags need zero security! edge.
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Post by AJ on Feb 26, 2018 21:42:44 GMT -5
The Supreme Court ruled in 2005 that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm. Cops are there to enforce laws not protect. I can't really hold the fact they are a coward against a LEO that does not put their life on the line to help the public. But their own conscious should make them find a new job once they decline participation or stand down from an incident.
I found it amazing how fast students organized and rallied a march against guns. Hmmm, that smells a lot like George Sorros.
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Post by tar12 on Feb 27, 2018 10:23:37 GMT -5
The Supreme Court ruled in 2005 that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm. Cops are there to enforce laws not protect. I can't really hold the fact they are a coward against a LEO that does not put their life on the line to help the public. But their own conscious should make them find a new job once they decline participation or stand down from an incident. I found it amazing how fast students organized and rallied a march against guns. Hmmm, that smells a lot like George Sorros. I couldn’t sleep at night knowing kids died while I had the power to stop it strapped on my side. I understand that no one wants to die...but I could not let that go down the way it did! It is easy to arm chair coach but I believe in my heart that I would of made things very uncomfortable for that phycho...
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Post by dannoboone on Feb 27, 2018 12:00:29 GMT -5
I found it amazing how fast students organized and rallied a march against guns. Hmmm, that smells a lot like George Sorros. That amazed me as well. It was as though the foundation was already there, just waiting for such an occurrence. Even here in Iowa, it was more like a matter of hours than days when the students began protesting. Sorros is always back in the shadows, behind the scenes funding anything and everything that tears countries down, and I'm getting that same "smell". On a brighter side, if there can be one after such a horrible event as the latest school shooting, the gun control fanatics may be overplaying their hand. Not so much in the "news" is the fact that there was record attendance at a gun show this weekend in Tampa. NRA not only is getting more memberships, but a lot more donations than normal. And those who could have stopped it (FBI as well as Sheriff Israel) are receiving more heat each day.
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Post by edge on Feb 27, 2018 14:51:15 GMT -5
I found it amazing how fast students organized and rallied a march against guns. Hmmm, that smells a lot like George Sorros. Or Tom Steyer
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