What to do with all these emails???

[Buckrub]

Like everyone else, I get a ton of emails lately.....some from folks on here. So many of them are telling me of the 'dire situation' this country is in.

Duh.

I tried to tell everyone last fall what was about to happen, not many listened, so..........

Here's my question. These emails all end with something along the lines of "WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE".

Hey, Dude, I'm awake already! OK? I'm VERY awake. I sort of feel like maybe I've been the most awake guy in the country for almost a year. Stop telling me to WAKE UP. I'm there.

What is it you want me to do? Do you want me to shoot the guy? Start a petition? Ask my CongressCritter to start impeachment proceedings? What EXACTLY is entailed in this "WAKE UP" admonition? What do you want from me?

I didn't vote for the guy, I'll NEVER vote for anyone like him in any way, I realize he won, and that's that.

We do NOT have the Parliamentary System. We can't oust someone by having a new election. We're stuck for 4 years. Knowing how America is leaning, we're probably stuck with such folks forever. That's life.

Thus, I'm not sure what these emails are truly wanting from me. And I am getting a bit perturbed by having to read them nine times a day, all saying the same thing, and all demanding action that I can't take.

Seems to me they're stating the obvious and asking for the impossible.

Maybe I'm off base.

[ozark]

Buckrub, we all have a lot of confidence in you and we are glad to put on your shoulders the responsibility of correcting all that needs correcting in America. Just list all that is wrong and then make the necessary corrections so that none of us will have doubts, fears or worry. I don't know about the others but I am depending on you to fix everything. I am comfortable with that too. Thanks Buckrub.

[Buckrub]

Um.......Ozark, I don't think I'm the SOLE recipient of these emails, man.

Not sure they want ME to single handedly fix it. I can't fix anything. That's the point. They know that, so why do they keep asking me to?

[ozark]

I was kidding buckrub. I think that when people encounter things they can't do anything about or have no idea what is best to do they find a way to talk about it. That is probably the reason for the many emails that we all get. I suspect that the next few years will be surprising and a worry to many folks.

[Buckrub]

Here's a tip of the glass to both of us that we GET TO SEE the next few years, my good friend!

[chuck41]

Buckrub,
You ain't the only one good buddy!! Like you I didn't vote for, support or encourage the jerk. Our state voted by an over 20% margin for the other guy. I didn't like the other guy either, but voted for him as a protest against the narcissistic socialist currently in the White House.

I too told everybody I knew what he was and what he would do and now I hear from all different sources, "Well, if we had only known!!!" Well, dummies you should have known. You had lots of warning. Look at who he hung out with. Look at his voting record. Look at what he said about himself, and still does. Look at all the empty promises of "Change" without ever defining what that means. Look at how he changed his story over and over again during the campaign.

The average American voter is an idiot and the party in charge along with the news media wants it that way. They have worked hard for the last 50 years to dumb down the electorate and now we are paying for it.

[rossman40]

Some of the stuff I have been getting is a bit scary, all most to the level of revolution. Of course politicians do not remember taxes is what started it back in 1776. Of course there was the battle of Athens Tennessee, which is maybe why the democrats want to do away with guns.

[Richard]

Buckrub...........Maybe the object of these e-mails is that they will be spread far and wide and in 2012 the A-holes who voted for NOBAMA will change their tune! Hopefully. So lets just keep inundating those left wingers with the truth about NOBAMA. And if you get too many, just point your mouse to DELETE and CLICK! ;D
Richard

[petev]

Fortunately I don't get such emails. I would just like to know, how after 230 years, does the Federal Government, meaning Obama, think that taking over a corporation such as GM is a prudent thing? Since when does the Government think it can run business better than the private sector?

[ozark]

With the tax payers providing a constant source of income along with the powers to raise taxes if more money is needed it the government has a distinct advantage. Plus, as you know they can use deficet spending and print more money. But yes, the government thinks that they can do a better job. History has proved over and over that that thinking is wrong.UPS and FedX have made the Postal service look sick. Which is a true look. Forwards and emails from people I don't know are usually deleted.

[chuck41]

Have a look at this one. That will mean you won't have to wait for the e-mails to get your latest information.

[Buckrub]

OK, I watched it.

I'm going to try and make my point one more time, Chuck.

I agree with this. OK? First and foremost, understand that this mirrors my philosophy as well.

BUT........

The main point I made with this post, and I continue to ask this question repeatedly is........"OK I AGREE, NOW WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?"

In fact, the guy in this video, dressed like Ben Franklin, is berating ME for doing nothing about some actions that my Congress took. He can't believe it. He thinks "SOMETHING" should have been done about these idiots passing a huge spending bill, and on top of that for not reading it.

THIS is what is pissing me off to just be frank. I AGREE ALREADY!! But please, P L E A S E, stop telling me to take action if you aren't going to suggest what that action should be!!! Did you want me to drive to Washington, muscle my way into the Congress Chambers, and shoot my representative just before they got a chance to vote YES on this idiotic measure? YES? NO?

DID YOU?

If not, then there is no way I can imagine that I could have stopped my Congresscritter from voting for this bill. Yet that is the action that this bozo is telling me I SHOULD have taken.

THIS IS the type of email and admonition and video (ad nauseum) that I'm about up to my last nerve with! I'm inundated. I can't email my kids or my friends without someone forwarding me this kind of thing.

Now, before you get mad, go back and read what I wrote above, FIRST. I said "I AGREE WITH THIS STUFF".

When it comes to politics, I'm way to the right of Attila The Hun. The thought that someone in America is MORE Conservative than old Buckrub is plumb laughable. But I hate pomposity and so I don't cotton to Rush and Hannity and O-Reilly. I agree with them TOO! But I don't listen or suggest that you do, because they will run off way more of the 'other side' than they will ever convert. They're windbags, regardless of their political bent. This country has become a Chasm-Divided group of Two-----and whichever side you are on, you must do TWO things always----you must deride every thought of the 'other side' regardless of how cogent their comments, and you must uphold totally every comment of the spokesmen of 'your side' regardless of how stupid or how poorly presented.

Well Poppycock and Balderdash, I say! I will not.

The Lord said "The Devils also believe, and Tremble". He acknowledged one good deed the Devils do....they have faith. They just do everything else poorly!! But they Believe, by gum! And the Lord mentioned it publicly.

OK (whew, I'm on a roll, huh?).......

Back to my main point. If you want to send me an email or a Youtube or any other information, then it's up to YOU (not me) to check it out as being false or true first. If that's too much trouble for you, then stop forwarding bull feathers. It makes YOU a liar just like the content that you are forwarding. That's harsh, but that's true and it's my opinion. So check out what you are telling other people first.

Second, if there is NO POINT in the content, if it's just standing on a box on the corner and hollering "The World Will End At Noon", then don't bother me with that either. If you have something you want me to do (for example, suggesting I take part in the recent TEA Parties, which is a positive request), then FINE! Do that! Good! But if you are going to tell me that I'm a jerkwater idjit for not 'taking action' without telling me what that appropriate action might be, then leave me alone. I'm a busy man, I've got lint to pick out of my navel, for goodness sakes.

If you think that these false contents and spurious calls to action will convert the other side, then send it TO THEM. But I believe you will be defeating your purpose and hurting all of us on 'this side'.

and no, I didn't sleep well and I did see the Bird of Paradise circling my cereal..........now that you mention it.

But that's my two cents.

[Buckrub]

I didn't mean to be so mean......especially to my friends.

I guess I'm just unable to figure out how to fix this MESS any more than the next guy and it frustrates me.

But I know I just am overwhelmed with requests for me to do things that I have no idea how to do. If they want us to get rid of the current administration, they should have come up with the Parliamentary System instead of this one.

With this one, we're stuck, good or bad.

[chuck41]

We have maybe 300 Million souls in this country. About a third of them vote. Of those that do about a third actually have an idea what the heck is actually going on. Yep, you can attend "Tea Parties", you can write your congressidiot (actually, allthough one such contact is worthless, but enough of those do have an effect), you can forward "appropriate" e-mails to hopefully "enlighten" some of the, less enlightened, members of the electorate so they don't do that same dumb stunt the next election cycle.

There is actually quite a lot of things you can do, depending on the individual and the level of concern over the loss of our liberties in this country. You can also sit in the barko-lounger and pick belly button lint while watching the "news" on NBC.

Actually my previous post was a bit "toungue in cheek" as you should have caught by the comment with it "Have a look at this one. That will mean you won't have to wait for the e-mails to get your latest information."

That link that followed is an extreme example of exactly the type of things you deplored in your original post. It and similar will continue for some time because the American electorate is dumb and ignorant and folks who are concerned are going to continue trying to wake them up and educate them as to what their idea of civic responsibility means. If you get caught in the crossfire, I guess it is like other forms of warfare where there are always examples of individuals who get caught by "friendly fire". Last time I checked "friendly fire" is just as dangerous as "unfriendly fire". Very regrettable, but that's life in a war zone.

[Buckrub]

I don't think those things are what the guy in the video meant when he said "WAKE UP AMERICA". He wanted America to take action against our Congress due to their voting for the stimulus bill.

I wrote my Congresscritters. They laughed at me. They always do, except when they ignore me.

Just not sure what "wake up" means. I don't think he means the things you mentioned. Those are great, but they aren't doing a single thing to stop a specific vote in Congress.

[ozark]

Rush Limbaugh and a few others like him that preaches hate the democrats and makes personal attacks more to get credit ratings than to help America have turned millions away from the Party. He has been a bad influence on countless otherwise loyal consersatives. Americans in general doesn't believe in tactics like calling Chelsea ugly and making fun of Hillery.and others. I would like to be a good consersative Republican but I cannot join the likes of Rush or others who uses like tactics.

[chuck41]

Jul 17, 2009 12:23:57 GMT -5 ozark said:

Rush Limbaugh and a few others like him that preaches hate the democrats and makes personal attacks more to get credit ratings than to help America have turned millions away from the Party. He has been a bad influence on countless otherwise loyal consersatives. Americans in general doesn't believe in tactics like calling Chelsea ugly and making fun of Hillery.and others. I would like to be a good consersative Republican but I cannot join the likes of Rush or others who uses like tactics.

So does that mean you will join the Democrats who attack Sara Palin's family including her Downs syndrome child because that is more honorable? Come on - give me a break! This is just the same old garbage. If you want to be a Democrat and support the things they support like abolishing the second amendment, the
elimination of freedom of the press, and the establishment of Marxist America then have the intellectual honesty to actually say so instead of picking some lame thing like, "I don't like what Rush says". What about what George Soros says. What about what David Letterman says? What about what Whoopie Goldberg says? Need I continue the list of the dozens of notables? At least be a tiny bit objective.

For every personal attack made by Republicans there have been dozens by the Democrats in the last few years. Or in your mind is it like sexual misconduct in office? It apparently is a destroyer for a Republican but a badge of honor for a Democrat. Calling Chelsea ugly is nothing like the smear tactics used by liberals in recent years against the families of their opponents. They have systematically created smear campaigns about the family members of every opponent or even families of those that are likely to become opponents.

As far as Hillery is concerned, she was a candidate and as such is fair game for any kind of attacks about her positions or candidacy or activities. Under Bill's administration she was a very visible member of the administration and to ignore her would have been stupid. This is unlike any other first lady in my lifetime. None of them actually became part of the administration, directly attempting to influence legislation. Remember "Hillary Care"? The rest of the first ladys in my lifetime preformed purely ceremonial positions and as such should not be considered "fair game" by the opposition.

[ozark]

OK Chuck, I was attempting to point out one reason that the Republican party has lost its glitter among the American public. George Bush and Chenny ruled for eight years and in the minds of many were principal parties that got us into the financial and war mess. You are correct that both sides are guilty of smearing the other side and this is divisive. The two parties (Not just one in particular) works hard to separate the people of my country. I voted for McCain and Palen but the public had already been fed up with the conditions brought upon us. I ususlly vote republican but when I keep reading about Bushs VP ordering information withheld from congress I shudder. Clinton was a womanizer but he did leave the economy in great shape. I fear Obama will leave it even worse than Bush left it. But let me state a view I have that you will no doubt disagree with. A whole group of Democrats and Republicans are unfit to be where they are. Sorry isn't restricted to a particular party. Both have people serving that should be in prison. If you believe that the Republican party is weakened by Democrats you are mistaken. It has self destructed and people like Rush Limbaugh have lit many fuses. I think I may switsh to the Democrat party simply because you can't accomplish anything from the outside. The R party is going to be out for a long time. I am not against woman being involved in government. Maybe Hillery was part of the reason that the economy was in great shape when Bush took over.

[chuck41]

Jul 17, 2009 18:56:50 GMT -5 ozark said:

OK Chuck, I was attempting to point out one reason that the Republican party has lost its glitter among the American public. George Bush and Chenny ruled for eight years and in the minds of many were principal parties that got us into the financial and war mess. You are correct that both sides are guilty of smearing the other side and this is divisive. The two parties (Not just one in particular) works hard to separate the people of my country. I voted for McCain and Palen but the public had already been fed up with the conditions brought upon us. I ususlly vote republican but when I keep reading about Bushs VP ordering information withheld from congress I shudder. Clinton was a womanizer but he did leave the economy in great shape. I fear Obama will leave it even worse than Bush left it. But let me state a view I have that you will no doubt disagree with. A whole group of Democrats and Republicans are unfit to be where they are. Sorry isn't restricted to a particular party. Both have people serving that should be in prison. If you believe that the Republican party is weakened by Democrats you are mistaken. It has self destructed and people like Rush Limbaugh have lit many fuses. I think I may switsh to the Democrat party simply because you can't accomplish anything from the outside. The R party is going to be out for a long time. I am not against woman being involved in government. Maybe Hillery was part of the reason that the economy was in great shape when Bush took over.

Clinton left office in January 2001. The country was by then five months into a recession. The news media hid the fact that the wholesale sales index tumbled in August of 2000 and fabricated a vision of a beautiful economy. My business died in September of 2000 along with thousands of others across the country.

George Bush did a bunch of stupid things, but he did not attempt to assist a dictator to turn a democratic republic into a Marxist dictatorship as Obama and Hilliary are trying to do now in Honduras. (See: www.royalcs.com/blog/?p=156 )He did not attempt to foster on the American people a socialist medical system that he exempts himself from. He did not try to wage war against our right to keep and bear arms. He did not attempt to rob workers of the right to have a secret ballot to determine if they are going to unionize. He did not try to convert the United States into a socialist society as we are seeing now at the hands of the Democrats. Every one of these idiot schemes is lauded by the Democratic party and their national leaders Peloci, Reed, and Obama.

[ozark]

I see little benefit of blaming the Democrats for the death of the republican party. It is not going to be a serious factor in American politics during the next twenty years or longer. Who we blame for its loss of trust and support is not helpful. It is a shame but the people have evaluated its values and decided that anything else has to be better. It was the Republican party that elected Obama and all his party. Voters revolted against Bush and his crowd and decided the least of two evils were the Democrats. If our elected officials are bad then the people have to bear the responcibility. Republicans can gripe and scream all they want to. It is we the people who have looked at the choices and said a loud no way to more republican government. The dictatorship of Bush/Channey just never caught on with the people. When the Republican party stops blaming the democrats for their downfall and discover that the main problems rests within their own house then they may somehow regain the trust of the people. I think it will be years and years down the road.

[Buckrub]

Political Parties Suck.

[ozark]

Buckrub, I fully agree. I wish they would do away with labels and parties and stop concentrating on cutting each other down and campaign on merit. Well said Buckrub.

[minst7877]

Jul 19, 2009 14:10:23 GMT -5 ozark said:

Buckrub, I fully agree. I wish they would do away with labels and parties and stop concentrating on cutting each other down and campaign on merit. Well said Buckrub.

They don't know how to campaign on merit. The only way these losers can win is to try and make the other one look worse than they are.

[Buckrub]

Don't thank me, Ozark. I'm just paraphrasing George Washington's Farewell Address (Google it up). He said a lot, and said it well, but in summary he said that America would rue the day that they allowed Political Parties to take hold, and also would rue the day that we got involved in other Countries' troubles.

And Minst is right on one thing. There's no merit to ANY of them. We debate which one is worse, and we argue over Joe vs. Mary being better or worse than Earl or Suzie was when THEY were in office, but the truth is that every single one of them, without exception, would never be hired if you were the Boss of a company, have no skills, have no value to bring to the situation, are mostly just greedy and ignorant and started life as probably some lucky lawyer or insurance agent (or both) in some little town. They know nothing, do less, and have the morals of an alley cat. And we talk about them (positively and negatively) incessantly, as if they were important.

Sadly, they probably are. They're deciding our future and our fate.

Makes me wanna puke.

And Rush ain't right, and Bill O'reilly ain't right, and the left wing media ain't right (the ABC National News piece on some gun hating priest up north, last night, was the most biased I've ever seen. They literally BEGGED Washington to pass stricter gun legislation), and Al Franken ain't right and none of the 'bashers' are right. You can't beat folks up and make them convert. If/when they point out your stupidity, do YOU instantly convert? Well they ain't either.

It's good to know the TRUTH and have it broadcast. I'm for that. But we've become plumb mean (me included).

And I still don't have the answer to my original question. The answers I've gotten are not very valid. I'm tired of getting unsubstantiated and impossible-to-follow admonitions in my email, mixed in with all the cute cartoons that I do like........ takes a substantial and important percentage of my busy day to weed through them and discard the lies and ignore the silliness.