Did Oswald kill Kennedy alone?

[ozark]

I know, there are many theories. But at the time this happened I was surrounded with many Master and several Distinguished rilfe shooters.
Oswald had a Argentine 7.65 Mauser type bolt action rifle. Two shots placed close together while a vehicle was moving. Shooting was at a steep angle downward. This after the first shot causing a violent movement.
Oswald was supposed to have qualified as a sharpshooter which is a step below expert. None of us felt like we could have duplicated such accuracy under the conditions and with that rifle.
If Oswald made both shots it was accidental or two unbelievable shots. I have no clue as to the truth but I doubt that Oswald acted alone there.

[rogo]

I believe after reading everything I have regarding the assination that there is substanial proof that a second shooter was on the grassy hill and shot JFK through the forehead which blew out the back of his head along with his brains. In a video I saw at one time it shows the brains sliding down the truck of the limo. The graasy area would have been an almost straight on shot.

[edge]

IMO, most likely the Zapruder film, and that would have been a 10 cm piece of Occipital bone.

IMO, perhaps more than 1 shooter....

I saw the Zapruder film back in the 70's and it convinced me that Kennedy was shot from the front...Until.....I put a deer out of its misery by shooting a shotgun slug into her head at about 10 feet. At the shot her reflexes made her move almost to me! After that, the movement JFK made could have been caused by a bullet to the back of the head.

edge.

[tcmech]

Ozark,

Not to nitpick but the rifle used was a 6.5 mannlicher - carcano with a fixed power scope, not a 7.65 argentine mauser

I have an 1891 model 7.65 argentine which I feel is much more accurate than the 6.5 m-c, although I have never shot one. I do believe that with the right weapon there could have been just one shooter.

I don't believe that the 6.5 was the right weapon though.

[Buckrub]

Wanna know what my 'proof' is?

How many deer have you shot that fell towards you? If they fell DRT, how many had hair/bone/blood/parts between you and the deer? None, I'd wager. If there are pieces that fly anywhere at impact, they fly AWAY from the shooter......simple physics.

Yet, Jackie goes flying to the back of the convertible, in the direction of Oswald, to pick up the back of JFK's brain and head that went flying when he was hit. She stuck it back on there in a panic, a natural reaction.

But there is no way, 100% chance against it, that this phenomenon would have occurred had he been hit anywhere in the back of the head.

The End.

[edge]

If you read my account of shooting the Doe in the head, it did do EXACTLY that!

edge.

[Buckrub]

Not physically possible. I don't believe you. You must have been on drugs or something. Or drunk. Or mistaken. I couldn't possibly be wrong here. Not a chance. You should rethink this.

[jims]

I have seen photos of pumpkins being shot and the camera was in very slow motion and there is at times debris towards the shooter like edge said. I realize a pumpkin is not a body but it has some "similarities".

[ozark]

I suppose we all have our opinions but it would probably shock many if we knew the truth and what all was behind it. I am not implying anything other than that I suspect that only a select few knows.

[mkjstep]

OBVIOUSLY, you guys have never watched the "X FILES" ! Any one who has knows that the CSM, cigarette smoking man, was recruited to off JFK. Of course his identity was wiped from all data bases. Later on, CSM also shot ML King!

You guys should watch more TV!

[petev]

Ozark, you said something that I've always wondered about. Documentaries that I have seen have always downplayed Oswald's shot as an easy one, and I could never understand it for the reasons you have mentioned. I am with buckrub on this one, that I think quirky things can happen, when things are in motion, including animals getting shot, but the brains blowing out to the rear, and the head slapping rearward, after the initial bullet sent him forward, are too much for me to not believe that a shot came from the front. If we only knew what the governement does not tell us! Pete

[edge]

IMO, the body movement to the rear being taken as bullet impact energy is a false assumption!

It is involuntary muscle action only!

A FMJ bullet shot into a corpse will only make the body ripple with motion.

IMO, the brain blew out the back because on the skull it is the weakest area. While very thick bone, the skull comes together with the occipital being a nice concave round section where the bones come together but never really completely fuse. IIRC virtually the entire occipital blew out and a complete piece.

JFK's body was more or less locked in place because of his back brace.

If you watch the film closely, see how Connally reacts to being hit by the same type of bullet. He continues looking around for where the shot came from!

As I said, I believe that the jerking motion of JFK is 99% muscle movement.

edge.

[johnc]

No.
I believe more than one shooter and that Oswald might not have even fired one round.

[153]

I would have to agree with most everyone else here that there was more than one shooter.The route had been changed to put Kennedy in a good killing position.Oswald may have been shooting FMJ bullets but the shot from the front(the killing shot) looks as if it may have been an expanding bullet.Also the bullet that was supposedly found intact after going through Kennedy was almost perfect shape,this was a FMJ bullet but should have ended up in the car after passing through Kennedy.Just looking at the facts points to more than one shooter and this was also very well planned out.Kennedy had made a lot of enemies in the time he was in office and had gone back on promises made in his campaign,remember Old Blue Eyes(Frank Sinatra) help him get elected then gets no invite to the inauguration.Old man Joe Kennedy was one of the biggest crooks in his time and had many enemies as well,this has never been looked into from as payback toward Joe Kennedy.Shooting his son would bring old man Kennedy more pain and sorrow that just simply shooting the old man.

[chuck41]

He also made big enemys with Fidel and his buddies in the Soviet Union. Oswald spent time there and was likely a stooge, but was obviously at least one of the shooters if not the only shooter. Could there have been a second shooter? Possibly, but today most everyone who was closely tied to this is dead. Let it go.
Chuck

[dannoboone]

There was a time when I had to put a llama out of its misery. I stood
about 20yds away. At the shot, I saw something fly back at me.
It was about a third of the poor critter's brain, and landed about
half way between the llama and me.

Guess what the first thing was which entered my mind?.......JFK!!
Weird $hit happens.

[DHinMN]

I'm watching a program on the History Channel about the Kennedy Assisnation. I've seen it before and they rerun it every now and then. If you get a chance to watch it sometime It may answer some of your questions about a conspirancy theory. Using modern technology and information can explain a lot of the questions about what happened that day. It may or may not change your thoughts about what happened that day. DH

[Buckrub]

"There was a time when I had to put a Llama out of its misery".....

I've read that sentence a hundred times. I can think of very few sentences in the modern history of the written word that have left me with fewer questions and more wild imaginations than that one.