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Post by tnhunter on Jun 21, 2015 15:40:35 GMT -5
I'm planning one setting a TC impact up for my son this year with reduced blackhorn 209 load. I'm looking for the lightest bullet that will still have good expansion. I've had experience with Barnes tez 250 and they load extremely easy. I now shoot a smokeless Remington so I've been out of the modern muzzleloading for a while. I'm gonna start with 60gr of blackhorn measured by volume. Any suggestions or info would be great. I'm looking for the lightest recoiling load I can get.
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Post by triplese7en on Jun 21, 2015 16:47:34 GMT -5
I use this one in my Omega...... but with a stiffer 90 grains. Using 60 grains should be fine for 50 yards. The bullet is devastating on deer, expands well and perhaps one-half of the harvests are pass-thrus (according to prbullet.com owner Cecil). Precision Polymer Tip 180 grain 50/40Want cheap?...... go buy XTPs in 185 or 200 grain, then add a regular, smooth Harvester or MMP sabot |
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Post by encore50a on Jun 21, 2015 17:16:53 GMT -5
100yds or less, I'd go with the Hornady XTP 240 or 300. They're cheap and pretty much readily available. Try both weights with the supplied sabots.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Jun 21, 2015 23:22:09 GMT -5
Barnes has a 200 and a 225gr XPB in 451. Both are made for 45LC velocity. IIRC they also have a 180gr .451 TAC XP made for 45ACP. Ive never tried that one though.
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Post by ratsnakeboogy on Jun 22, 2015 9:14:34 GMT -5
Barnes 195 knurled just enough to grab the sabot in a 50/40 sabot, on top of 65gr BH209. Good to 100 yards.
My son shot this out of a Knight Elite when he was 6 or 7. I had the stock cut down and the barrel cut and recrowned to 20".
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Post by BuckDoeHunter on Jun 22, 2015 10:34:34 GMT -5
My youngest shot his first big doe with his Impact using 60gr BH209 and a Barnes 250gr TMZ with the supplied yellow sabot. I have since switched all the muzzies over to shoot the 250gr TEZ with a Harvester smooth black sabot, accuracy is better. I would stick with the TEZ, expansion is great at lower velocities. The recoil with 60gr of powder is mild.
The above post with the 195gr expanders sounds like a good option too if it shoots good out of the Impact.
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Post by tnhunter on Jun 22, 2015 12:52:29 GMT -5
I noticed on another thread some of you guys are measuring the BH by weight. Are these loads your telling me by weight or volume? Thanks for all the replies!
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Post by BuckDoeHunter on Jun 22, 2015 16:23:33 GMT -5
Mine is by volume, sorry for the confusion.
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Post by ratsnakeboogy on Jun 22, 2015 17:21:21 GMT -5
Mine was by volume.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Jun 22, 2015 18:52:09 GMT -5
60gr by volume x .7=BH209 by weight.
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60 x .7=42 if you wish to weigh it.
BTW Cabelas has the 45cal 225gr XPB and 44cal 200gr XPB on sale atm for under $15/20.
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Post by 10ga on Jun 24, 2015 16:00:55 GMT -5
When my daughter started hunting and I was still shooting smokers it was 223 grain "belted" bullets and 50 grains of F grade Swiss. Worked great. Nowdays I have the kids shoot 31 gr. 4759 under a 10MM 200XTP in a blue sabot in my Conversion. If going with the BH209 and an impact I'd just shoot those "cheap shots" lead HP bullets and supplied sabots. Then whatever powder load he can handle. Should be deadly out to 100. I'd stay away from solid copper or even jacketed bullets as the lead ML bullets will give superior performance at the lower velocities you will probably be shooting. You might even look over on "Precision Rifle" and try some of their lead ML bullets, I've used them and they are great at smoker velocities. JMHO, 10 ga
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