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Post by donw28 on Feb 28, 2015 18:57:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking about a hunt in Kansas for whitetails next September. If anyone lives there and can provide me some clarification on the laws on muzzle loaders it would be appreciated. The way I'm reading the Kansas law is that smokeless is OK but sabotless with a jacketed bullet might not be OK. Thanks for the help.
Don
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Post by rlp10ml on Feb 28, 2015 21:54:22 GMT -5
Don, I went to Kansas last September for the Muzzleloader Opener.I too interpreted this as you could not use a Sabotless Jacketed Bullet.I called the Kansas DNR Office and they told me that as long as the bullet is at least .40 in diameter and it is loaded through the muzzle end,it is OK to use.I know that is only 1 person that told me that and the next person might say NO,but I did shoot Sabotless when I went last year.Oh by the way,it was 90+ degrees all week while I was there.................Hope this helps a little ----- Rich
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Post by darrel on Feb 28, 2015 22:11:23 GMT -5
MUZZLELOADERS Muzzleloading rifles, pistols or muskets that can be loaded only through the front of the firing chamber with separate components and that fire a bullet of .40 inches diameter or larger. Only hard-cast solid lead, conical lead, or saboted bullets may be used with muzzleloading rifles, pistols and muskets. Handguns may be possessed during big game muzzleloader only seasons but may not be used to take big game unless they are muzzleloading handguns
I'm from Kansas and cant explain exactly what that says. Sounds like it was written by an opportunist. Having said that I have not been checked deer hunting on private land in 45 years. At least it doesn't dis-allow smokeless. We can shoot as many as 7 during the deer seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 22:15:09 GMT -5
Way I read it is they are trying to say no muzzleloading shotguns
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Post by donw28 on Mar 1, 2015 7:16:01 GMT -5
I think I'm going to load sabotless and take my chances. I'll consider the veggie wad sort of a "short" sabot without the petals even though the petals are the important part of a sabot. And no way am I asking the DNR as asking gets you an answer you don't want. Thanks for the info guys.
Don
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Post by dannoboone on Mar 1, 2015 12:55:04 GMT -5
Were it me, I would carry a saboted load just in case a warden got curious.
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Post by cowhunter on Mar 1, 2015 12:56:25 GMT -5
That could be Cole, but it is also clear that they are trying to outlaw the boat-tailed bullets Richard is spreading around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 13:58:57 GMT -5
I have built several guns for guys to take to Kansas and they all use full size bullets, the way I read the regs a while back its perfectly legal....
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Post by cleatus2506 on Mar 1, 2015 21:13:44 GMT -5
I hope that's the case Bill. I just booked a Kansas hunt for this September and I plan on shooting full size bullets on a Kansas toad!
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Post by bluedog on Mar 1, 2015 21:55:28 GMT -5
Who/where are hunting with cleatus?
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Post by jeff on Mar 2, 2015 6:31:12 GMT -5
I hope that's the case Bill. I just booked a Kansas hunt for this September and I plan on shooting full size bullets on a Kansas toad! Since Kansas is a draw state by unit which isn't until May, how do you know your drawing a tag? jeff~
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Post by norseman1 on Mar 2, 2015 11:37:54 GMT -5
Some areas are 100% draw.The better ones are not.
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Post by edge on Mar 2, 2015 14:55:36 GMT -5
I bet it is written that way because they do not know that you could shoot a jacketed bullet without a sabot!
They allow a bullet without a sabot, and they allow a jacketed bullet. It would seem to be very convoluted to not allow both at the same time.
edge.
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Post by cleatus2506 on Mar 8, 2015 20:48:03 GMT -5
I'm hunting with Hickory Creek Outfitters near Sedan, KS bluedog. The area I'm planning to hunt in has been %100 drawing success for the last several years. No guarantees, as you mentioned Jeff, but the odds seem pretty good.
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