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Post by lakeplainshunter on Jan 24, 2015 6:13:14 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense. Since ive reduced firing pin size and bushing in bolt firing pin hole . Ive had no issues with primer sticking. Just makes since to have a small firing pin like every other bolt rifle or shotgun .085 to .100 Most all are in agreement that Knight should have reduced the diameter of the firing pin on their newer models. I moved on to SMLs before I got around to turning down firing pins and bushing firing pin holes. This was heavily discussed 4 to 5 years ago.
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Post by bestill on Jan 24, 2015 7:51:34 GMT -5
Wish i would have been on board4-5 yrs ago. Sure would have shortened my learning curve. I just ventured into the knight bare primer mountaineer few years ago and after alot of tinkering became obvious.170 pin didn't make since compared to bolt rifles.
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Post by bestill on Jan 24, 2015 8:09:41 GMT -5
Sabotloader, Thanks for sharing old board knowledge i went back to ck old post and finally got answer why knight never change firing pin size . I find they choose the .170 pin so it will easily convert to western ignition(#11) with only a breech plug change. Don't pertain to me but at least i kinda understand. Since knight would never address my question. Thanks
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Post by triplese7en on Jan 24, 2015 8:38:32 GMT -5
Knight shouldn't be required to modify, supply or change firing pin lengths, to suit aftermarket breechplugs which may be longer or shorter than theirs.
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Post by bestill on Jan 24, 2015 8:54:10 GMT -5
Knight shouldn't be required to modify, supply or change firing pin lengths, to suit aftermarket breechplugs which may be longer or shorter than theirs. im not sure i follow your last post. this discussion is all related to knight produced products. and firing pin length has not been discuussed. so help me understand what your post is referring too. thanks
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Post by sabotloader on Jan 24, 2015 12:14:01 GMT -5
Sabotloader, Thanks for sharing old board knowledge i went back to ck old post and finally got answer why knight never change firing pin size . I find they choose the .170 pin so it will easily convert to western ignition(#11) with only a breech plug change. Don't pertain to me but at least i kinda understand. Since knight would never address my question. Thanks Correct but I have lobbied for the reduction of the size of the orifice in the face of the bolt. It does not have to be as large in diameter as it is. It is still the old design that was opened to allow the build of blow back material on the face of the bolt and still not obstruct the travel of the firing pin. In yesteryear even form their bare primer BP's the amount of blow back was not a huge concern and they could get pretty dirty. Today that opening could be closed down a few thousands and provide less opportunity for the primer to be driven into it.... BUT! In my little world and thinking about all the strange things that can happen with all the different people and experience levels of those people, it might be a blessing that the primer can be driven out and back up into the bolt. To me it is a safety advantage in a catastrophic event, such as overloading - double projectiles - smokeless powders - plugged bore & etc. Nothing I would want to count on but the ability of the rifle to loose pressure by blowing the primer out might be a help. Consider the small hole that most bolt action rifles have right at the breech to help do the same thing IF... The idea and thought of reduction of the size of the firing pin is still viable and still in the minds of the brands manager for Knight but I am not sure when or if it will happen. I know he has considered it. Once a few years back I had one of my firing pins turned down and an insert placed in the face of the bolt for the reduction of the hole diameter. It worked pretty slick but today I do not even know where it is any longer as I decided to go back to the original design again just for what, in my mind, might be a bit of a safety factor. Now, if my bolt has locking lugs - I might reconsider that whole thing.
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Post by triplese7en on Jan 24, 2015 13:21:59 GMT -5
bestill
Firing pin lengths, in relation to both manufacturer and aftermarket breechplugs. Even coming into retrospect with primer sizes and lengths.
If this is too off-topic here, you may private email me for a discussion. I'd rather not discuss that here, should it not belong. I do my best to keep-on thread topic. So if it doesn't belong. send me a PM that I can identify as being you.
But it really isn't necessary, for breechplug and primer sizes do not effect me personally. So the opportunity to disregard this, is there also.
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Post by Alabama on Jan 24, 2015 19:52:03 GMT -5
Triplese7en
I have yet to see 1 positive post you have made. Maybe you need to find another board.
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Post by hunter on Jan 24, 2015 20:13:50 GMT -5
7 sounds like a kid throwing a fit, the more attention you give them, the more fits they throw
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Post by triplese7en on Jan 24, 2015 22:13:36 GMT -5
7 sounds like a kid throwing a fit, the more attention you give them, the more fits they throw Huh? Do you even know anything about this sport? I do not see you mentioning anything about muzzleloaders inside this thread. Are you just here trolling? Is that what you're good at? I am here to talk blackpowder. All that other stuff is the teacher in me. If my posts bother you, then go relieve yourself by placing me on ignore. Then all your troubles end right there. In the meantime, I talk topics this board was intended to discuss. If trolls like you want to reply to me, that's fine. But stay on topic and leave the insults and belittlements at home, not here. Lastly, if the uneducated posters don;t want to learn the internet ways / lingo / motto of operation, that's fine with me. But I will never stop trying to educate and teach. If you don't like it, then screw you. I could care-less what you like and dislike. That's how I treat trolls like you.
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Post by discman on Feb 1, 2015 21:00:48 GMT -5
I had the same problem with one of my bare primer guns. I took a small jewelry file and worked on the bolt face then sand blasted the face of the bolt, problem fixed.
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