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Post by deermangler on Nov 3, 2014 21:33:28 GMT -5
I'm looking to build a coyote rifle with a 16"-18" heavy bull barrel in .22-250 or .243. If anyone has any input, pro or cons that would be great. I'd hate chop a barrel for no reason and wate few hundred dollars. Thanks.
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Post by painless31 on Nov 3, 2014 21:53:04 GMT -5
I'd be looking for a SS SPS remington in 223. Chop the barrel to what ever length you want. I'd not be going heavy as you won't want to carry it. Light done right beats heavy and un handy every time. The 223 is cheaper to shoot as well....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 23:08:59 GMT -5
I second that a quality barrel of lighter profile will outshoot your expectations. If you get a precision barrel even in a spotter weight it will be capable of sub MOA and be a great walking varminter. The calibers you chose will be plenty strong for your needs but factory loads likely won't tailor well to your short barrel. A 6mm with smaller case capacity might be the ticket for your needs. JMO
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Post by 1coyotemaster on Nov 4, 2014 8:21:48 GMT -5
I concur with Painless and Meyers--leave the bull barrels to the benchrest shooters, they are awkward in the field and if you get onto shooting runners they are a hinderence there as well besides the hurtful muzzle blast. I would put the extra ounces in barrel length and squeeze all the velocity you can out of whatever you choose. A fast twist .223 (8 or9) in 24"-26" will shoot some high BC bullets that will flatten dogs to 400 with some scope adjustments. The 60 Vmax/Varget is a very good dog combination and is pretty fur friendly at anything over 100 yds.
As far as caliber selection there are plus and minus for about any of the more popular choices. If you already have the brass and dies than shoot what you have--otherwise be aware that most of your Coyotes will be killed at under 250yds. and less gun will give less fur damage.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Nov 4, 2014 18:50:50 GMT -5
I think a 16-18" .22-250 or .243 is just noisy and you loose any advantage of the cartridge. For a barrel of that length I think you are looking at a .223 Wylde with a 1-8" twist. I know for a fact you can hit sub-minute targets to 700yds with such a rifle. You will also get a lot more barrel life. You also don't need a heavy barrel; accuracy/precision is not a function of mass. If I were building that rifle a #4 or #5 contour would be as heavy as I went. That configuration in a sporter with a reasonable optic will handle well and offer you all the precision you could want.
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Post by deermangler on Nov 4, 2014 20:22:46 GMT -5
Thanks for all the feedback. It's great to hear an outside view. I think I will go with a lighter contour. But still hung up on the super short idea. I have many long guns and just thought this would be a fun change from the 24"-28" barrels I use the most. Trial and error I guess. I'm looking at a remington 700 AAC sd with a 16.5" .308. Figure this would get me going. If I like it I'll keep it. If not I'll rebarrel it. I found one for $500 figure can't go wrong with that.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Nov 4, 2014 20:42:47 GMT -5
I worked over one of the 700 AAC .308s for a guy I work with. Shot 175gn SMK over 8208XBR real well and even did ok on the 1000yds KD range. I'm all for short and handy when applicable. Long and heavy is tiresome, cumbersome, and unwieldy.
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Post by deermangler on Nov 4, 2014 22:21:45 GMT -5
I worked over one of the 700 AAC .308s for a guy I work with. Shot 175gn SMK over 8208XBR real well and even did ok on the 1000yds KD range. I'm all for short and handy when applicable. Long and heavy is tiresome, cumbersome, and unwieldy. spoken like true poet. Plus options are good. Never have too many rifle options |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 20:43:08 GMT -5
I've got a lil Rem 700 ADL (I think) chambered in 204 Ruger, it shoots well on paper but I have yet to try it out on a yote, I think it will do just fine. I also have a new Savage Axis II in 22-250 that would probably make a nice yote gun, but I have yet to fire it..
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Post by sourdough44 on Nov 7, 2014 13:29:14 GMT -5
Just get an X-Bolt 'Micro-Hunter' or a Remington Model 7 in 243. No further modification required, maybe some trigger work.
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Post by deermangler on Nov 7, 2014 22:52:50 GMT -5
My main goal is to get a 16-18" barrel with a medium to heavy contour. Anyone have an opinion on barrel twist. I'm looking at 1 in 8 so I can shoot heavier bullets.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Nov 8, 2014 12:13:05 GMT -5
Unless you are using a magazine system without a blinder plate 1-8 is what I'd use. If using a system that allows for longer cartridges and want to use 80-90gn bullets I would go to something faster than 1-8. I would build on a #5 with 1-8 twist.
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Post by deermangler on Nov 8, 2014 14:34:53 GMT -5
Anyone want to build this gun for me? My normal gunsmith is little busy and I want this by January or February
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Post by sourdough44 on Nov 20, 2014 6:27:34 GMT -5
Anyone want to build this gun for me? My normal gunsmith is little busy and I want this by January or February If you were to have a custom gun built, you have to evaluate the gun builder 1st, reviews and the rest. I would rather buy something ready to go than get tangled up with an unknown gunsmith. I had a custom gun built a while back, the wait was over 3 years. You could find a production gun or even a previously made custom for sale easily. With the short timeframe I would just buy something. |
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