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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 21:15:25 GMT -5
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Post by fishhawk on Oct 22, 2014 21:21:26 GMT -5
A brake and a recoil reducer, you were a bunch tougher when you were younger!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 21:26:28 GMT -5
Im still tough, just a little smarter....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 21:30:00 GMT -5
Interesting project. I'm positive it will turn out top notch and shoot the same.
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Post by fishhawk on Oct 22, 2014 21:33:33 GMT -5
Bill, my .416 is amazingly mild with the radial brake. 95gr H4350/340CEB feel like my .45 10MLII with 62gr H4198/saboted 195 Barnes.
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Post by jims on Oct 22, 2014 21:45:39 GMT -5
Nice
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 21:55:39 GMT -5
Very .. Very nice
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 22:15:42 GMT -5
Looks cool as heck!
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Post by markb317 on Oct 22, 2014 22:58:06 GMT -5
That's going to be a nice setup Bill I think the recoil reducer is a smart addition for the stock on a .416, I know that I'm a little afraid to try mine out without the muzzle brake on it.The 416 is an attention getter when I take it to the range. Good luck with it and make sure you bring it to the next challenge, there can be a .416 shoot off also.
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Post by rambler on Oct 22, 2014 23:11:35 GMT -5
"Hey, hombre! A compliment on your shooting!"
Nice rig
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Post by tnhunter54 on Oct 23, 2014 5:49:22 GMT -5
Looks good Bill.
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Post by bigmoose on Oct 23, 2014 6:28:21 GMT -5
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Excellent photos. You must be much man to tote a 14lb pound rifle in the field. It reminds be of going on a forced march with full pack, web gear steel pot and an MI, a tough 20 miles Oh to be that gent again smiley face
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 6:39:42 GMT -5
Mark my other barrel didnt have a brake and it just plain kicked my butt, thats the reason I left it in the safe for a year. watching you guys fire them off at the shoot renewed my interest in the .416.
I think Jeffs plug and carriers will work well in this application and the bushing will be a test mule for the .416. Im anxious to see how the .250 x .038 works out...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 6:42:53 GMT -5
Marty while I will likely hunt with it I have no plans to make it a walk about gun. I wouldnt even think about anything lighter in this caliber. the unbraked barrel kicked as hard as anything I have pulled the trigger on and it was in the 12 lb range at the time..
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Post by ET on Oct 23, 2014 6:56:51 GMT -5
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Definitely looking good and nice complimentary work being done.
I see no issues with a .038” vent but have to ask another question if you don’t mind. In the past you mentioned about exploring powder chamber dimensions and has me wondering if you’ve added a powder chamber to this build of yours?
Ed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 8:59:04 GMT -5
yes the chamber is in the 85-90 grn range. I plan to shoot 100 grns of 4350 and if its accurate then Im good with it
and to add, the first shot or two will be done remotely via a nylon string just for proofing..
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Post by hemicuda on Oct 23, 2014 10:23:53 GMT -5
Bill, I used a 20' piece of twine on my first couple of shots... you never know. I built it a didn't expect a problem and it worked out great. On the recoil issue- I like your 'smarter' ideas! It happens as we get older. You have a lot of new ideas going on and as you said it's a test mule-looks good!
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Post by fishhawk on Oct 23, 2014 10:44:37 GMT -5
I was skeert of mine at first. Many shots on the lead sled before I grew the cojones to try freehand.
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Post by Richard on Oct 23, 2014 11:44:22 GMT -5
Hillbill................VERY nice rig and work! I like everything about it and impressed to see you used a stout barrel to have fluted. It is just one of those rifles that ooooooooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeee accuracy! I am jealous and would build one like it in an instant if I had some place to compete? Since I don't? I have no reason to invest in building one Good luck with it! Richard
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 11:59:13 GMT -5
I dont have a place to compete but if I can get some decent accuracy with it I have a friend in AK that wants me to come up and do a 1000yd caribou. would likely be some kind of record by muzzleloader Im not sure but it sure would be fun to try.
I have no business with this rig BUT who needs to drive a corvette or a jacked up diesel truck with 800 hp? same mind set i guess, something to tinker with...LOL
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Post by cowhunter on Oct 23, 2014 12:04:13 GMT -5
Cool. I'm pretty sure you're gonna see some copy-catters down the road.
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Post by rlp10ml on Oct 23, 2014 14:50:53 GMT -5
Very Nice! I'm really liking that XR-100 action.Remington needs to sell the XR-100 actions like Savage sells the PTA action.
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Post by markb317 on Oct 23, 2014 17:40:06 GMT -5
Bill, I don't think you will have any problem with that 100 gr. load of 4350 mine has been shooting it very accurately with 350MH's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 17:52:46 GMT -5
Lookin' good!
I have to ask. Was the barrel fluted after it was rifled? Word on the street is that fluting a Pacnor after it's rifled weakens the barrel. Truth or Myth?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 18:16:22 GMT -5
Weakens I would say it weakens the burst strength of all barrels but stiffens them up if that makes any sense. I know there are debates on whether fluting induces uneven stresses on the barrel if done after rifling. I also am interested in others opinions on this subject. I think your barrel will be plenty strong though Bill, don't worry about that string for trigger time!
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Post by hankinsrfls on Oct 23, 2014 18:42:34 GMT -5
Many manufactures flute after rifled and still win in the bench rest world. Many flute before rifling and some will not flute at all and voids warranty if it is flutes. Different strokes for different folks... I have fluted hundreds of barrels and 1/2 or better accuracy is not a problem....
Bill.... Remember one thing........SHOOT EM IN THE HEAD........... Jeff.
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Post by Jon on Oct 23, 2014 19:28:34 GMT -5
I don't feel I should even be giving a comment since I don't have much to give but from my limited experience any time you remove metal in increments is a weakness? For an example when I worked on rotary wing many years ago they came up with a flexing rotter head but if you were to take and scratch a line across the flex area in 10 hours it would break. I happy to say I was never able to test this.
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Post by Dave W on Oct 23, 2014 19:31:25 GMT -5
Weakens I would say it weakens the burst strength of all barrels but stiffens them up if that makes any sense. I know there are debates on whether fluting induces uneven stresses on the barrel if done after rifling. I also am interested in others opinions on this subject. I think your barrel will be plenty strong though Bill, don't worry about that string for trigger time! Go to the barrel manufacturers sites and check the FAQ section for their take on it. Shilen for one is against it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 20:40:00 GMT -5
we can debate the fluting issue till this time next year and still not come to a conclusion, I have had many buttoned barrels fluted and they were still shooters, how do you think Pacnor does them? they flute after all work is done except for bead blasting. this I know for a fact.
some makers insist it stiffens the barrel, some not. Im no engineer but I have been around the block a time or two and anytime you add an angle to a piece of metal the metal gets stiffer,remember the fluted arrows of yester year? I once had a engineer tell me if you checked the deflection on a piece of tubing without grooves cut in it the deflection was drastically reduced by cutting grooves in the tube. My pea brain tells me this would be true but as far as burst strength? by decreasing the thickness of the barrel by fluting yes I would think burst strength would be less.. JMO however
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 20:55:30 GMT -5
Not trying to pick on your fluting Bill. I still think if a guy wants/likes the look then he should pick a suitable contour or location to start the flutes and go for it.
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