Shooting supplies

[wilmsmeyer]

Things are coming back it seems.....for now

Yes, still not like the old days of just flipping open a catalog and grabbing anything you need....but it's better. Except 22's. Who ever would have thought???

What's enough in terms of what you need on hand? Will powder, bullets, primers and cases be never to be found again in the near future?

Here in NYS, you can't buy loaded ammo thru the mail anymore. In Mass, you can't buy reloading supplies thru the mail it seems. Will NYS or other states be next? Imagine you HAVE to go to a gun shop to get a box of special bullets? Many gun shops, even in the good old days, have a limited supply of components....be it powders, bullets, cases or primers. On line, when stocks are normal, you picked up the phone and ordered what you needed.

Here in NYS you can't buy a rifle from your neighbor....without a backround check.

It's slowly closing in on us all who hunt, shoot, reload and love to do so. The bad guys always seem to have guns and none of the restrictive laws have hampered that. Even with total confiscation, this would not change. The news around here has shootings everyday....SAFEACT really works well. LOL

These are tough times and everyone should be ready for the inevitable....super expensive ammo, components and unavailable guns. Very sad.

We still have avenues to stock things that may be needed 20, 30 40 years from now and should exploit them. It is sad to think that the best investments that we can make are in gunpowder, primers, brass and bullets. Those that do will be holding literal gold in the near future.

What's enough for you?

[Deleted]

It's a true shame we are where we are, and unfortunately headed for worse.
And unfortunately I believe "hoarding" to some extent is the only way to gain any sort of comfort for the days and years to come.
Again, it is a true shame but I agree that we all need to try to stock up on what we feel we need in our "arsenal" to last us til the end of our days, because it will only become more expensive and more sparse.
Me personally, I'm anal and I'll likely never feel I have enough...

[dannoboone]

Oct 14, 2014 18:11:00 GMT -5 wilmsmeyer said:

What's enough for you?

N. S. A.'s stockpile would just about do it.

Because I need it? NO!! Because then they wouldn't
have it. Citizens could breath freer.

[7mmfreak]

It is hard for me to stock pile anything as much as I shoot. I probably don't have more than 150 of any particular bullet on my bench, more than 3# of any powder, and no more than 2K primers of any type. I have about 2K rounds of .22LR but I shoot it as fast as I can buy it because it is great for pistol and rifle practice. I shot it when I couldn't find 9x19mm and then I shot 9x19mm when I couldn't find .22LR. Same thing with 5.56x45mm; shot .22LR when people thought ARs would be outlawed then started shooting .223 when I couldn't find .22LR. I shoot more in a year than most people who think they shoot actually shoot in a lifetime. To put it in perspective I shot 122 rounds of .308 Win in the last two weeks alone; most don't shoot that much through their hunting guns in five years. I have burned nearly 2K 77gr Matchkings this year. My smokeless muzzleloading is the only place where I probably only shoot 100 rounds a year and that will change once I start making bullets next month. I can't find anything in bulk or I would buy it because paying shipping on small lots of powder or bullets adds dramatically to the cost compared to paying shipping once for a bulk order.

I hate hoarders because there is no room for that. If you hoard you are a casual shooter, simply put. Guys who need ammo because they shoot competitively or do a lot of hunting and shooting can't find it or find it in part and parcel.

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Oct 15, 2014 16:23:51 GMT -5 7mmfreak said:

I hate hoarders because there is no room for that. If you hoard you are a casual shooter, simply put. Guys who need ammo because they shoot competitively or do a lot of hunting and shooting can't find it or find it in part and parcel.

To me there are different degrees of hoarding, and that's why when I mentioned hoarding to some extent above.
I too hate hoarders who buy up everything just because they can and to be able to brag about their supplies, while the rest of us struggle to find what we need to get by. EX: A couple guys locally know exactly when the powder shipment will arrive at the local shop, those same guys buy out every popular powder, every single shipment, you can come in the day a shipment arrived thinking you're going to get a pound of Varget, but the hoarders took it with them soon as it came off the truck, month in and month out, this same thing happens. (Same goes for primers and some bullets)

The extent of hoarding I was referring to would be, someone like myself going in a shop and buying say #5 of Varget to where I could be comfortable for years, but not buying the whole da.. case like they do..
Extreme hoarding is very frustrating....Just wanted to clarify my thoughts mentioned above.

[7mmfreak]

OG,

I don't call what you are doing hoarding; I know from monitoring this sight you are a shooter. I do the same thing. What you mentioned of the local guys (and only the unemployed, self-employed, or retired can do this lest you fall into one of those categories when your employer finds out you are ammo hunting instead of working) who have the time and opportunity to stake out every ammo and component delivery are who I meant. I most certainly buy what I see a need for whenever I can get it. I passed on an 8# of H4895 and H1000 the other day because I have 3# of each and needed bullets that day. The store only had one of each (and a couple of 1# each) so I left it for the next guy. He had thousands of primers so I picked up some Fed Gold Medal LR match primers because he had them, priced them fairly, and I needed them since the CCI BR-2 is not $50/1000ct vs Fed at $34/1000ct. If everyone would do this, everyone would have what they needed. When I see people doing what you are doing it takes all of my self control not to impart physical harm.

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The small town suppliers won't try to stop them either, they are making their money so they are happy.. I've griped before and the reply I get is, it's first come first serve, guess you need to get here earlier.
I watched a guy in front of me buy 9 1#ers of N110, he bought every single one... Bad thing is, I would of liked to had just 1#, if he'd a just left 1. I even said to him, yeah N110, that's what I'm looking for too....didn't phase him!!
If you see it and you need or will use it, get it, don't buy it so no one else can have it... That's my motto...

[artjr338wm]

I have spoken to more than a few persons in the ammo industry who's info I trust and according to all of them the .22 shortage is due to the smaller gun stores getting their orders of 22lr and in turn selling them on the web. Larger stores such as Cabela's and the like eithor can't or wont. I have no way to confirm this as being true, but it does make sense.

IIRC right now in the USA alone something like 5 or 10 million 22lr are being made per day now and that can't keep up with demand?

We gun owners will be guilty of our own demise. We by way of greed and fear induced stupidity are doing to ourselves what the motherless anti-gun SOB's can only dream of.