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Post by bestill on Sept 9, 2014 5:36:24 GMT -5
I know there's alot of discussion concerning bullets. After being on board for a while and shooting about every possible bullet. This is my opinion. Me and my brother shoot inline matches and kill several deer a year. Weve sent appx800 match hunters down range and 250 ballistic extreme and 200 hornady of all weights. My go to bullet for hunting is without a doubt is 327 match hunters and paper killing its a 300 ballistic extreme. Im calling out a entrepreneur to build a very marketable bullet
Here's my goal. .453 bullet with appx.022 jacket lead core or heavy shot component and aluminum tip flat base. 320 - 330 gr. 450-500 B.C.
Yes expensive but i dont like cheap gas in my race car !!!!
.453 will allow smooth form for all.458 barrels. Or .451 and a preknurled bullet option..
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Post by 7mmfreak on Sept 9, 2014 19:22:19 GMT -5
I looked into swaging Bismuth when I first started wanting to make bullets. It can be done but Bismuth is brittle so it has to be an alloy; usually tin-bismuth or copper-tin-bismuth. Depending on what you mix it may or may not have to be sintered. If it is a jacketed bullet it is not such a big deal but as a mono it could be depending on the metal to be swaged. It is also very hard so might not give you the obturation everyone is always talking about but mono's work fine in the SML when set up properly so maybe a heavy metal core could work. Either way, it would require additional tooling over a cup and core die set unless it could be formed without sintering but you would likely have a bullet that would not not size easily. Due to it's hardness it was recommended to me not to be shot as a bare bullet without a dry film lube of some sort; hBN, molybdenum disulfide, tungsten disulfide, etc. Like so many other ideas we won't know unless someone does it.
I decided to stay with cup and (lead) core designs. I also did not choose to purchase a tipping die (the tool maker recommended against it due to performance and cost) because there are already guys making aluminum tipped bullets and you cannot easily swage plastic tips (most plastics have too much memory). I looked into having plastic tips die-cast but the cost was prohibitive. So, for me it will be OTM.
The jackets are easier. You can get jackets ready made that will do the job for targets or hunting. Other jackets can be had but you would have to make them as there are no readily available jackets that are suitable.
All of it can be done if you have deep enough pockets to tool up, already have manufacturing capability, or are willing to pay someone who does have the capability to design and make them.
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Post by bestill on Sept 9, 2014 20:04:44 GMT -5
Great info. Well im all for 330 grain bullet with lead core and .020 jacket with near 500 B.C. Is that possible? And what is your bullet plan looking like?
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Post by jims on Sept 9, 2014 20:15:08 GMT -5
:)How about depleted uranium. In all seriousness I am impressed by the lengths you are going to make the bullet of your choice. Barnes, Nosler, Parker and others felt they could make a better bullet and they did. I hope it all goes well for you also.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Sept 9, 2014 20:31:55 GMT -5
Thx Jims Bestill, If you meant what does the bullet look like when you asked what my plans were this is it: the dykem covers the reamer blank. If you meant specifications I'm open to several weights and jacket thicknesses. I know what I want but what I need is a balanced and stable bullet. I'll work until I have one then I'll work on another.
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