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Post by 7mmfreak on Jun 24, 2014 19:52:29 GMT -5
OG, Yours sounds to be pretty prettier than mine. My wife is into the whole reclaimed timber and antiquing thing so she will paint and distress this thing when it is finished. I'm a function type guy but if pretty keeps it in the house instead of in the garage where things rust, paint it shall be.
Richard,
Yes, the bullet will swage at .458" and I can draw it down to .451" but it will not be done with a Swinglock. It will be done on a swaging press with a draw die. So if you have a .458 and want to full form them in a Swinglock FF die you can get them freshly swaged and cleaned. If you want to shoot them smooth formed you can get them drawn to .451 and you can run them through your smooth die to do final fitting. If you shoot a .442/.451 you can get them drawn to .451 and run them through your Swinglock FF die.
As for jacket thickness, only experimentation will determine what works. A bullet swaged at .458 and shot full form may benefit from a thicker jacket while a bullet swaged at .458 and drawn to .451 may need the thinner, tapered jacket.
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Post by Alabama on Jun 25, 2014 11:27:12 GMT -5
Are you getting your press and die's from Corbin? Curious about what type press you're going to use.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Jun 25, 2014 12:47:43 GMT -5
Bama,
I was going to build the press from some plans I got from a guy but some work I needed done with welding and machining wasn't easy to get locally so I went to several die makers and there is next to zero interchangeability of parts unless you do small stuff on a standard reloading press. In the end I went with Richard Corbin for dies and a Walnut Hill press. He's the guy that designed what Dave Corbin sells and I can't stand guys who pawn off what isn't their own, especially if they charge more to do it. I might be blowing it out of proportion but it's like calling yourself an artist when you color in coloring books.
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Post by Alabama on Jun 25, 2014 13:01:22 GMT -5
How many bullets will you be able to produce an hour?
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Post by 7mmfreak on Jun 25, 2014 13:13:46 GMT -5
I do not know yet. If you read on the Corbin site they say 120 an hour but they are also trying to sell you dies and press and say you can make a living doing it. I am not trying to make a living doing it so my guess is I could dedicate weekend mornings to it (not during hunting season) before my wife wakes up. That usually happens between 9AM and 11AM and I usually wake up by 6AM regardless of whether I want to be awake or not. So, on any given Saturday and Sunday I have 5-10hrs to kill while she sleeps. I still have lots of handloading to do so I would say I could do this 4 hours a week (I am not counting afternoons I am home and could do it if I wanted to) because I cannot shoot on my range until noon on Sunday. If 120 bullets/hr is correct then I could make around 500 bullets/week. I don't need that many for me so I am planning on doing it by demand. I will try to maintain a stock from which to fill orders but I won't keep thousands on hand.
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Post by Richard on Jun 25, 2014 15:00:19 GMT -5
Thanks for your reply...........that answers my question. Richard
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Post by 7mmfreak on Jun 25, 2014 19:39:35 GMT -5
Finished: Now I just need to take it apart, move it inside, put it back together, and have the wife paint it.
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Post by smokelessindian84 on Jun 27, 2014 16:56:39 GMT -5
Here is my HD press table. B Farmall tractor rear wheel weight for the base. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Attachments:
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Post by jims on Jun 27, 2014 16:59:33 GMT -5
What is the table itself made of and how thick is it. I have many old farm implements in my woods I could pull out and use if needed. Thanks
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Post by 7mmfreak on Jun 27, 2014 17:04:59 GMT -5
Mine is 4x4s for legs, a 2x8 joist under 3/4" top, and 2x6 bearer supporting joist. Pine and finish grade plywood. His appears to be all metal.
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Post by smokelessindian84 on Jun 27, 2014 17:11:25 GMT -5
What is the table itself made of and how thick is it. I have many old farm implements in my woods I could pull out and use if needed. Thanks The top is a 7/8" thick steel plate. And yes it's all steel. It is heavy enough that it had to be carried in as 2 peices and bolted together. I like having my presses on a seperate stand and my powder scale on the counter so it doesn't get shaken. The post is a 4x4 square tube 1/4" wall
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 14:36:22 GMT -5
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Post by 7mmfreak on Sept 2, 2014 18:53:12 GMT -5
Dang, that's sharp. If my wife sees yours we will be doing that. She has this thing for re-claimed lumber and "barn" anything. I'm constantly doing something with wood she picks up, or has me pick up rather, or staining and "distressing" finish grade lumber from Lowes. My bench is in disarray right now. I am re-mounting some things to make space for the new bullet making operation:
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Post by rambler on Sept 2, 2014 18:53:34 GMT -5
good job guys!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 19:06:56 GMT -5
So do you use the drill press to full form then? . Nice powder collection!
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Post by 7mmfreak on Sept 2, 2014 19:31:27 GMT -5
I use the drill press to roll crimp 12ga loads using 738gr hard-cast full-bore solids for my DSG. This week it has been pulling double duty putting holes in a stock for mounting hardware.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 19:40:14 GMT -5
Wow 1 5/8 ounce slug.... That's a bruiser!
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Post by 7mmfreak on Sept 2, 2014 20:04:56 GMT -5
Yeah, it's pretty punchy when you get to top end loads with IMR-4759 or 4227 but it will shoot 1MOA or so if I do my part. It's a re-worked Savage 210F in a McMillan; I did put it together before the 220F existed or I would be shooting a 20GA. Between the weight and the stock it is manageable.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Sept 3, 2014 3:35:06 GMT -5
Ohio Guy,
Is that actually wood from a pull-down barn or did you age and distress new lumber? My wife saw the pictures so this is going on out "to-do" list when I free up some time in a couple of weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 5:42:20 GMT -5
Ohio Guy, Is that actually wood from a pull-down barn or did you age and distress new lumber? My wife saw the pictures so this is going on out "to-do" list when I free up some time in a couple of weeks. The siding is actual old barn siding and the top is a piece of "really" old rough cut counter top all from a friends great, great.... Grandfathers old farmhouse. It had all been salvaged and saved by his family somehow and handed down over and over since the 1930's.. I have no clue why he offered it up to me, I reluctantly, gladly obliged.... The bench top is just shy of 3" thick! It's hidden by the barn wood but it's one heck of a piece of lumber.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Sept 3, 2014 16:51:57 GMT -5
That's pretty cool
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 18:49:01 GMT -5
Thank you and thank you for the idea on the top, yours looks awesome and back to work for me.....It never ends...
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Post by 7mmfreak on Dec 11, 2014 20:45:51 GMT -5
Newest developments: 1. I found a local welder (at long last) to make a riser brace for the bullet press. I picked it up the other night and painted it yesterday: 2. I got an e-mail today saying the dies are all ready except the point forming die which will be done this week and I should have all dies and components before X-mas. 3. The NC Sec of State issued my business license. 4. I had a sit-down with my ATF agent last week and he says I will have my FFL by the end of the month. Hopefully, by New Year I have at least one bullet design to send out for testing. Luckily, I have a couple of weeks off coming up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 20:57:39 GMT -5
Great news ..you are surely getting all your "ducks" in a row, you couldn't have done this at a better time since the mh dry up....carry on....
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Post by bestill on Dec 11, 2014 21:03:34 GMT -5
Right on! Your efforts are very appreciated. Innovation at work .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 21:14:51 GMT -5
Awesome. Can't wait to see em. Thanks for your efforts!
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Post by 7mmmag on Dec 12, 2014 6:52:44 GMT -5
I will be looking forward to these new bullets !!! I think the OTM design .451 will do everything we need with great accuracy and terminal performance ! How long is it going to be ? I now that all shooters may not want to duplex but by doing this it will make the bullet obturate without a doubt , so jacket thickness will be spot on as a hunting bullet . I thought a 3 to 5 degree draft on the bottom would mabey help with some accuracy. I shoot Parker 300's , they good bullets . The only problem is avialibity . I considered doing it but don't have time Good Luck !!
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Post by ET on Dec 12, 2014 8:12:23 GMT -5
Newest developments: 1. I found a local welder (at long last) to make a riser brace for the bullet press. I picked it up the other night and painted it yesterday: 2. I got an e-mail today saying the dies are all ready except the point forming die which will be done this week and I should have all dies and components before X-mas. 3. The NC Sec of State issued my business license. 4. I had a sit-down with my ATF agent last week and he says I will have my FFL by the end of the month. Hopefully, by New Year I have at least one bullet design to send out for testing. Luckily, I have a couple of weeks off coming up. 7mmfreak Interesting riser bracket with a nice detailed paint job. A bit of interest for me are the side plates fitted to base mounting plate. They appear to be fitted edge to edge followed with stitch welding on the inside. Is the opposite side (underside) also stitch welded? Ed
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Post by rambler on Dec 12, 2014 8:59:38 GMT -5
I'm waiting with baited anticipation
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Post by 7mmfreak on Dec 12, 2014 11:06:52 GMT -5
Ed,
They are fitted side to side and the stitch weld is only on the top side
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