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Post by slammer on Apr 19, 2014 6:36:41 GMT -5
I have a TC encore endever and have done every thing to trigger and frame to make it right my weak link is the stock barrel ! Dose anyone know where I can get a quality barrel for this gun  |
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Post by encore50a on Apr 19, 2014 7:45:26 GMT -5
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Post by hawghunter on Apr 19, 2014 17:38:37 GMT -5
How about telling us what you have done so those in the know can offer a suggestion?
It could be powder, primers, bullets, sabots, cleaning, hinge pin, barrel lock up, forearm pressure and so on. A new barrel is nice but if the root cause is still there you may not fix the problem after spending hundreds and a 6 month delay waiting on a new barrel.
MGM and Bullberry barrels are high quality and pricey. I know, I own one of each and am waiting nearly 6 months for a new Bullberry that will be converted to smokeless 45.
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Post by bteague on Apr 19, 2014 19:40:48 GMT -5
BED THE FOREND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bteague on Apr 19, 2014 19:42:14 GMT -5
If it has QLA. Have it cut off and recrowned.
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Post by slammer on Apr 20, 2014 14:26:15 GMT -5
Ive redone the frame and trigger with Bellm T/C over size hing pin,trigger job, lock bolt springs, firing pin and spring large rifle primer conversion. the barrel has a smoth spot about half way down you can feel it when loading and cleaning it gets ease to pus ramrod for about a inch or two
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Post by encore50a on Apr 20, 2014 17:04:17 GMT -5
Ive redone the frame and trigger with Bellm T/C over size hing pin,trigger job, lock bolt springs, firing pin and spring large rifle primer conversion. the barrel has a smoth spot about half way down you can feel it when loading and cleaning it gets ease to pus ramrod for about a inch or two What load do you shoot from it?
Have you worked that barrel with some JB?
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Post by slammer on Apr 20, 2014 17:41:16 GMT -5
shoot parker 300gr ex in front of 110 gr of blackhorn 209.. have tried JB two or three times have tried adj powder and all different sabots bet the best I cando is 2.5 moa at 100!! love the gun just at the end of my rope to make it shoot... I have one ren 700 cf build that soots moa at 200 and a smokeless build awating a pac barrel from luke but I would like to get the encoer to shoot I relly like the feel of that gun
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 19:28:21 GMT -5
My suggestion is to get in touch with Carlos at Eds Gun Shop in Vass NC or PM mcgowen45 to see if he has any Encore Bergara .50 caliber barrels in stock. If your not stuck on .50 caliber you could get an Encore Bergara 45-70 barrel and have Slufoot do the plug install.
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Post by encore50a on Apr 20, 2014 20:40:11 GMT -5
shoot parker 300gr ex in front of 110 gr of blackhorn 209.. have tried JB two or three times have tried adj powder and all different sabots bet the best I cando is 2.5 moa at 100!! love the gun just at the end of my rope to make it shoot... I have one ren 700 cf build that soots moa at 200 and a smokeless build awating a pac barrel from luke but I would like to get the encoer to shoot I relly like the feel of that gun slammer, not saying you couldn't have a bad barrel, it happens. I've shot exclusively Encore platform rifles since they became available (now its an Ultimate). That said, I've never personally had one that wouldn't shoot 1" groups consistently. BH has been my propellant of choice since it became available. I've tried a number of different bullets, more or less just to say I tried them, however I always returned back to the Barnes 250gr TMZ bullet. I also know a considerable number of other Encore platform shooter, who all prefer the Barnes, either the TMZ or the T-EZ and report excellent accuracy. No rifle I've personally owned or those other shooters, have ever required the QLA to be removed to improve accuracy. It is known to have been a problem in older rifles.
As you didn't provide target photos, there's no way to determine if your groups are random or possibly vertical stringing. Vertical stringing .... can ... be caused by springboarding of the scope base on the tapered Encore barrels. Some eliminate that (or attempt to) by adding an additional screw to the base. Vertical strings can also be caused by to much movement of the barrel to the frame (locking bolt). But that's related to vertical strings and you didn't mention your groups. Another thing to consider is the hinge, which you indicated (I believe) that you reworked. If the hinge pin is tight in the frame, yet lose in the barrel, that can also attribute to poor groups. The hinge pin holes in the frame and the barrel should measure exact. If not they may need to be reamed to match.
It sounds as though you've lost all confidence in the barrel, and maybe its time that it was replaced, if for no other reason than to help with your confidence. Good Luck.
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Post by hawghunter on Apr 20, 2014 21:47:24 GMT -5
If you are looking for a new barrel DSS uses Kreiger barrels, Bullberry uses Pacnor, MGM and SMI all use Douglas blanks. Use the search function to see reviews of each builder. I'm sure you will find one to your liking.
Right now I'm waiting on a Bullberry in 45-70 gov't that will have a Savage modified breech plug converted by Slufoot when all the stars align. I want to shoot smokeless and sabot less. It's about a 5-6 month turn around time. Bullberry does sell their own muzzleloader barrel for encores too.
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Post by bestill on Apr 20, 2014 21:52:59 GMT -5
Buy a cva apex45/70 have converted to breech plug and parker bullet and project complete. 1 moa gun save lots of $
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