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Post by rangeball on Apr 9, 2009 14:28:39 GMT -5
It seems widely accepted that generally best accuracy is obtained with tight sabot fit.
When you found your best fit, on a scale of one to 10, with one being almost no ramrod pressure being necessary to seat a load and 10 being it's all you can do to get it down, where did you find your best fit?
I know it's subjective, but just curious.
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Post by rexxer on Apr 9, 2009 14:52:34 GMT -5
Mine shot good at 40 to 50 LBS ramrod force on bathroom scale!
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Post by younghunter86 on Apr 9, 2009 14:53:24 GMT -5
8ish? I know that when temps were below 0 degrees, and the sabots were at that temp also, it took everything I had to push a BCR and BO down the barrel. Normally it was hard but doable. Hence the 8.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Apr 9, 2009 16:00:29 GMT -5
8-9. Never measured poundage on a scale.
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Post by screwbolts on Apr 9, 2009 16:04:09 GMT -5
Hard to give you a good answer, what some can hardly push down others may think is just right. I like minimum of 40 and 60 is just right. 120 gets a little tough for me to hold the rod. (keep ot from slipping threw my hands) :-)
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Post by ET on Apr 9, 2009 16:31:41 GMT -5
With the use of a slip on T handle, 1-5 one handed and 6-10 two handed I find the best fit 5 to 6.
Ed
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Post by Buckrub on Apr 9, 2009 16:44:36 GMT -5
7.2394
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Post by Dave W on Apr 9, 2009 17:24:06 GMT -5
Range, I could be wrong but since you are dealing with a custom barrel compared to a OEM Savage barrel, I would be very surprised if your resistance is similar to our guns. Although I have never checked the seating pressure on my .45, it is considerably less than my Savage which happens to take approx.60-65 lbs. of pressure on a bathroom scale. This is on a fouled barrel at room temp, in the cold, it is a bear to load with the factory ramrod.
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Post by jims on Apr 9, 2009 18:48:37 GMT -5
Maybe a 6 to 7 but I like buckrubs answer the best. ;D
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Post by 1shot1kill on Apr 9, 2009 19:10:21 GMT -5
Ditto what jims said, 6ish-7ish is about perfect.
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Post by olegburn on Apr 9, 2009 19:17:57 GMT -5
Buckrub converted it to metric. Can't get any more precise.... ;D |
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Post by bowbender6 on Apr 9, 2009 19:24:35 GMT -5
8-9 two hands .458 bullets. I have a loose rough barrel but it shoots good.
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Post by Chris Champion on Apr 9, 2009 20:58:06 GMT -5
7-8 with a firm two handed push. 60 lbs of pressure on a lightly fouled (<20 shots) at 40* temp. When the barrel is quite fouled (30+ shots) and temp is in the teens its a 10.
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Post by huntingmike on Apr 9, 2009 22:38:31 GMT -5
8- two hands.
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Post by sagittarius on Apr 10, 2009 8:41:06 GMT -5
I'd only rate my new Pac-Nor barrel a 4 as it's really easy and smooth as can be to load with Harvester blue CR sabots and the Barnes 195gr Expander. Sure does shoot good to be so easy.  |
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Post by rangeball on Apr 10, 2009 9:07:43 GMT -5
Dave W, good point, but I'm actually asking for input to help a buddy and my brother-in-law. Both bought savages based on my recommendation, and getting them to shoot falls on my shoulders. BIL was easy. I told him "250 gr SST, short black MMP, 42 gr N110". He's never looked back, has killed several deer, only shoots the gun once before season to verify zero... I don't even think he's cleaned it yet after 2 years  Knowing what I know now, I'd like to see him use a stouter bullet, but I'd be hard pressed to get him to change anything. Lot's of evidence of bullets fragging, but the deer have all been dead. I just know a big one lost to a shoulder shot blow up is coming though. Friend got his savage late last season, we went out to sight it in so he could use it the last late season of the year. He ordered barnes 250gr MZs and shot them with the sabots they came with, which I believe are MMPs also, right? Anyway, the only day we had to go out to sight in was 4*... wonderful. Using the factory ramrod, it was all he could do to get the load seated. He was also using 42gr of N110, and groups were about 3-4" at 100 yards. Several factors were working against us- 1- It was freaking cold, and we were in business attire. No gloves, hands were frozen. 2- I've never shot with him, and am not sure of his capabilties. I did not shoot as I wanted him to be confident with the gun. 3- He had bought some cheap plastic looked like tic tac containers for powder vials, lot's of static cling, powder that got into the barrel may not have been consistent... 4- We were pressed for time. None of this is conducive to repeatable accuracy. I have lots of bullet/sabot combos for him to try now if the barnes just won't cut it, but was just trying to prepare myself in case the problem was the bullet/sabot and not other things. It's likely these groups will shrink, but we'll see. Reason I asked about sabot tightness was I had thought the tighter the better, but that didn't pan out in our experience that day. |
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Knowing what I know now, I'd like to see him use a stouter bullet, but I'd be hard pressed to get him to change anything. Lot's of evidence of bullets fragging, but the deer have all been dead. I just know a big one lost to a shoulder shot blow up is coming though.