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Post by grouse on Mar 29, 2009 16:53:37 GMT -5
When i started shooting and testing Lehigh bullets people came out of the cracks to complain about performance, cost, Brass, etc,etc. At the end of the day, all i know right now is they are accurate. Are they cheap, Hell no.
There are many companies with cheap bullets. I noticed Knight is selling MZ expanders for $14.00 bucks for 18 bullets. That's not cheap by any means. By the time you ship them they will be over a buck a bullet. If you like MZ Expander bullets, but cant afford them. Just buy a 250grn Hornady XTP or a 300grn XTP. They will do anything a MZ expander can do alot cheaper. I have no complaints about the Barnes MZ expander, they work. I have shot Deer with them. The XTP works to. Dont think you got to use a brand name bullet to shoot and kill Deer humanly. And you dont need to spend a buck a bullet either. My sporting store sells them for $16.00 bucks for a hundred 250grn XTP'S. That's like 16cents a bullet. They sell harvester sabots for $5.99 for 50 of them. That's 11cents a sabot. A little shopping and buying locally is a must to save money sometimes.
Can members please post some bullets that are cheap that you have had excellant results with for the members who dont have the money to buy the more exspensive brand name bullets. I would think Deer size game is good enough for the bullet choices. Maybe even some cheaper places to buy sabots and supplies. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have lost there jobs and could use a little help now in the pricing department.
I'm sure there are people who will appreciate this that read and dont even post.
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Post by Al on Mar 29, 2009 16:58:17 GMT -5
Tom, have you ever tried shooting cast bullets? I've always been curious to what their results would be.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 17:22:32 GMT -5
300gn .458 Remington HP....$29 per 100. They're the most accurate in my Savage, as good as any others in my Triumph and has proved to be the most accurate as of yesterday in my Ruger. I've yet to harvest a deer with one but many others have posted good terminal results. Last year I meant to get a deer with one but ended up sticking with the Barnes Original. Next year I'm starting out with a Remington.
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Post by younghunter86 on Mar 29, 2009 19:04:22 GMT -5
300gn .458 Remington HP....$29 per 100. They're the most accurate in my Savage, as good as any others in my Triumph and has proved to be the most accurate as of yesterday in my Ruger. I've yet to harvest a deer with one but many others have posted good terminal results. Last year I meant to get a deer with one but ended up sticking with the Barnes Original. Next year I'm starting out with a Remington. Zen Panhandle- I feel like I just agreed with you on the .458 Remingtons, but I will agree again.  If you have a loose bore I think they are perfect in a black crush rib. Otherwise in no particular order you have .452 XTP's in 250 and 300 grain, .451 Gold Dots in 250 grain, and .40 200 grain XTP's if your looking for something with little recoil. All of these are very affordable to shoot a lot and yet will still put meat on the table. Additionally they are all very easy to find. If I was getting a new inline I would buy some short black mmp sabots, harvester short black sabots, havester black crush rib, and sabots for shooting .40 bullets out of a .50 cal ML. Odds are you will find something your gun really likes. |
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Post by robnj on Mar 29, 2009 19:15:01 GMT -5
I have shot deer with the bullets mentioned by younghunter86, except the Remington (which has been mentioned a few times here.... and looks like I'll give that one a try).
One other affordable bullet that I had great luck with 777 in my Knights and T/C Omega is the Speer 260 JHP (.451). Not so much with BH209, but that may be due to sabot fit.
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Post by kevin k on Mar 29, 2009 22:57:21 GMT -5
wow the 250 xtp up here in Michigan just went up to 23.00 for 100 and the same for 50 300gr which last month i got for12.00 pretty soon there will be no cheap bullets and there also getting harder to find thats here any where else? kevin
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Post by robnj on Mar 30, 2009 8:48:45 GMT -5
wow the 250 xtp up here in Michigan just went up to 23.00 for 100 and the same for 50 300gr which last month i got for12.00 pretty soon there will be no cheap bullets and there also getting harder to find thats here any where else? kevin Right... not only are they going up in price, but it seems none of my online stores has pistol bullets in stock right now.... everything I want is back ordered.  |
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Post by spitpatch on Apr 4, 2009 7:12:29 GMT -5
Just bought several boxes $26.95/100....here for 250's $20.99/100....here for 200's Add tax and wow!!! I was told the Hornady rep for my local store said only the large buyers are getting bullets right away. If you have a small order, it could be months.  |
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Post by moto357 on Apr 4, 2009 13:26:04 GMT -5
casting my own is fun, plus with the likes of mt molds I get to design my own bullet. It's fun taking the time to make my own, and to see them shoot so well. This goes for conicals, even some I made with gas check, or casting 45 and 458 for sabots, although I'm not a sabot shooter myself. Another nice thing is I never have a problem with bullets on backorder  |
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Post by cgg on Apr 5, 2009 20:00:05 GMT -5
I like Hornady XTP's also, but if you cannot find them, Sierra makes a 300 grn .4515 bullet that kills deer well. Sierra #8830--Midway has them available for $15.79 for 50.
Sierra also makes a .4295 300 grn bullet that goes well with the green Harvester .44 sabots if your rifle likes them. Sierra #8630. They are $13.49 for 50 from Midway, but are out of stock right now.
Sierra makes a .458 300 grainer too.
Grouse is right--you don't need to spend a dollar or more a bullet to kill deer.
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Post by robnj on Apr 5, 2009 21:04:14 GMT -5
I like Hornady XTP's also, but if you cannot find them, Sierra makes a 300 grn .4515 bullet that kills deer well. Sierra #8830--Midway has them available for $15.79 for 50. Sierra also makes a .4295 300 grn bullet that goes well with the green Harvester .44 sabots if your rifle likes them. Sierra #8630. They are $13.49 for 50 from Midway, but are out of stock right now. Sierra makes a .458 300 grainer too. Grouse is right--you don't need to spend a dollar or more a bullet to kill deer. After reading your post, I found a couple of boxes of those .4515 300 Sierra's,,,, found them to be very accurate out of my Knight MK-85, way back when. Never deer hunted with them because I didn't think they'd expand without a hollow point like the XTP's. They have a lot of lead exposed... with a big, flat tip. You say you used them on deer ? |
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Post by cgg on Apr 6, 2009 17:13:48 GMT -5
I like Hornady XTP's also, but if you cannot find them, Sierra makes a 300 grn .4515 bullet that kills deer well. Sierra #8830--Midway has them available for $15.79 for 50. Sierra also makes a .4295 300 grn bullet that goes well with the green Harvester .44 sabots if your rifle likes them. Sierra #8630. They are $13.49 for 50 from Midway, but are out of stock right now. Sierra makes a .458 300 grainer too. Grouse is right--you don't need to spend a dollar or more a bullet to kill deer. After reading your post, I found a couple of boxes of those .4515 300 Sierra's,,,, found them to be very accurate out of my Knight MK-85, way back when. Never deer hunted with them because I didn't think they'd expand without a hollow point like the XTP's. They have a lot of lead exposed... with a big, flat tip. You say you used them on deer ? Yes, I killed two deer with them a few years ago using a T/C Black Diamond and Pyrodex pellets (I think). Both were mature doe at 50 to 75 yds in PA. I got complete pass throughs and what seemed to be good expansion. One dropped with a high shoulder hit and one only went 20 yds. and dropped within sight. I would not hesitate to use the Sierras again if they shot better in my rifles or I could not get the XTP's. JMO |
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Post by semisane on Apr 6, 2009 17:23:04 GMT -5
About a year and a half ago I had an e-mail exchange with one of the Sierra ballistic technicians about using their .45 cal /.4515 300 grain JSP #8830 in a muzzle loader at 1700 fps on deer. His response was "you need to hit bone, otherwise you're not going to get expansion". That didn't make sense to me, but that's what he said.
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Post by robnj on Apr 6, 2009 19:27:15 GMT -5
About a year and a half ago I had an e-mail exchange with one of the Sierra ballistic technicians about using their .45 cal /.4515 300 grain JSP #8830 in a muzzle loader at 1700 fps on deer. His response was "you need to hit bone, otherwise you're not going to get expansion". That didn't make sense to me, but that's what he said. I remember shooting the 300 Sierra out of MK-85's with 100 grs Select. They were super accurate... but when we shot them into a sand pile and compared to the 300 XTP they didn't expand much. Ear-marked them "heavy big game bullet" and put them aside. Even thought about drilling a hollow point in them. |
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Post by tcmech on Apr 6, 2009 20:24:51 GMT -5
I use the 300gr sierra sportsmaster bullets, not sure how much they cost but I believe I am paying about $17.00 for a box of 50. With a package of harvester crush ribs that saves me a good bit over the price of the packaged muzzleloader bullets.
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If you have a loose bore I think they are perfect in a black crush rib. Otherwise in no particular order you have .452 XTP's in 250 and 300 grain, .451 Gold Dots in 250 grain, and .40 200 grain XTP's if your looking for something with little recoil. All of these are very affordable to shoot a lot and yet will still put meat on the table. Additionally they are all very easy to find. If I was getting a new inline I would buy some short black mmp sabots, harvester short black sabots, havester black crush rib, and sabots for shooting .40 bullets out of a .50 cal ML. Odds are you will find something your gun really likes.
