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Post by ourway77 on Aug 13, 2010 8:06:39 GMT -5
Any one here did a ruger rifle conversion to smokeless? I have a 22-250 that I am thinking of converting to 45 cal. smokeless. Lou
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Post by dave d. on Aug 13, 2010 8:31:45 GMT -5
:)Lou there has been a few. Me,Dw , and Kerry did a trio awhile back All .45's. Mine was a 14 twist 24" and I believe Dave and kerry's where 20 twists. I no longer have mine but if shot great. Dave and kerry still have there's. Smi did the conversions and we used shilen blanks.
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Post by Dave W on Aug 13, 2010 19:35:36 GMT -5
:)Lou there has been a few. Me,Dw , and Kerry did a trio awhile back All .45's. Mine was a 14 twist 24" and I believe Dave and kerry's where 20 twists. I no longer have mine but if shot great. Dave and kerry still have there's. Smi did the conversions and we used shilen blanks. Dave is correct on the 20 twist on mine. |
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Post by Jon on Aug 14, 2010 15:10:33 GMT -5
One slight correction I was lucky enough to now have daved rug#1. It has it's own problems but as far as I'm concerned is a sweet piece
Jon
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Post by ourway77 on Aug 17, 2010 5:03:03 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Jon what were the problems you had?. Everyone what kind of accuracy did you all get? I use my Henry Ball still but looking into a 45 caliber. Lou
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Post by northny on Aug 17, 2010 6:35:44 GMT -5
I would also like to hear more about the ruger .45s. I intend to do a .45 in the future, and most likely will put a pac nor on my savage ML II, but I am still considering a Rem or Ruger conversion.
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Post by rangeball on Aug 17, 2010 8:56:16 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Jon what were the problems you had?. If it looks like every other conversion I've seen, I imagine one of the problems is he spends to much time sitting around staring at it. They are things of beauty, for sure  |
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Post by Jon on Aug 17, 2010 11:58:18 GMT -5
ourway77. No problem with the gun at all it just not as easy to prime and unprime, harder to get to under a scope. It shoots great. I've got a thing for the #1.
Jon
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Post by moto357 on Aug 17, 2010 12:25:02 GMT -5
these rugar #1 conversions really are a thing of beauty..
northny, where in ny are you? im in the middle of the adirondacks
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Post by Dave W on Aug 17, 2010 13:10:32 GMT -5
I would also like to hear more about the ruger .45s. I intend to do a .45 in the future, and most likely will put a pac nor on my savage ML II, but I am still considering a Rem or Ruger conversion. No expert here but I will give some thoughts on the #1. A #1 offers a more compact gun, I probably could have went with a 28" barrel and still been pretty close to a stock MLII in length. I have always liked the eye appeal of the #1 over a bolt gun also. I like the plug better than the Savage but I think a better mousetrap would be a set up like Edge and Dave D designed for the Remington where the extractor is still intact and a person could use primed cases. My #1 is kind of a pain to prime and someone with bigger fingers may have trouble getting the primer in the plug since the scope is in the way and it is a tight recessed area. I don't like the fact you have to carry a tool for primer extraction either. Triggers on all the Rugers I have had leave something to be desired. Mine is not bad, but it is not great by any means. Moyer makes an aftermarket I believe but not sure how good it is, probably others but I have never researched them. I read somewhere the #1 can be finicky about bench technique because the forearm hanger with too much downward pressure can cause the stock to come in contact with the barrel. Someone makes a forearm hanger tensioner where you can tweak the load a little, I just experimented with shims. Prices on used #1's at Cabelas locally is awfully high, if you already have the gun that would help. Getting the work done is another problem, 1 Shot 1 Kill may be an option as he has converted some or SMI, unless you spring for a Bad Bull. That said, I love mine. Dave D has went through several conversions, he would be a prime source for info on the advantages and disadvantages of different models. Some oics:    |
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Post by Jon on Aug 17, 2010 18:42:40 GMT -5
That is the reason I like the lead sled I can move the front rest for my #1. Would never think about selling or trading unless dire times keep coming up.
Jon
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Post by dave d. on Aug 17, 2010 18:49:35 GMT -5
:)dave that about sums it up on the #1 nice post.
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Post by savagebrother on Aug 17, 2010 19:49:14 GMT -5
here is my ruger no. 1 i have been shooting it since 2006 it is my go to gun for hunting in any state. it was done by SMI with a douglas barrel 28" .45 cal. 1:28 twist load 73 grains h322 and 200 gr. sst w/blue sabot also t/c makes a neet little primer holder that makes putting a primer in it a snap. its black plastic and about 4" long and holds a primer on each end.   |
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Post by Al on Aug 18, 2010 2:17:35 GMT -5
ugh......................now why did you guys have to post those pics!!!!
Geesh, might have to get the beagle looking for a #1 sometime!!!
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Post by bigmoose on Aug 18, 2010 11:02:13 GMT -5
Those are very fine looking rifles, they may just be the handsomest ML.
I'm jelous
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Post by savagebrother on Aug 19, 2010 7:57:21 GMT -5
you know bigmoose i dont even think of mine as a muzzleloader any more i just think of it as a big game rifle extraordinaire. it can hunt anything on the planet and then some.
sb
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Post by johnp034 on Sept 13, 2010 8:37:52 GMT -5
What breech plug do you use for the #1 and does Pac-Nor make a barrel for it? Any specifics would be extremely helpful. I have a#1 in .220 Swift that I am contemplating converting to ml.
Thanx,
JohnP
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Post by Dave W on Sept 13, 2010 15:03:59 GMT -5
SMI did mine and they have their own plug design, much shorter than the Savage.
We ordered blanks from Shilen then SMI turned them down to the contour we wanted. See no reason you could not buy a Pac Nor blank and have it sent to SMI but it will most likely raise the cost since they use Douglas barrels and I assume the get bulk rates from Douglas for their blanks. I know the Balls have converted #1's but not sure if it was for private use or they offer them to the public so they may be an option also.
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Post by bigmoose on Sept 13, 2010 17:00:15 GMT -5
Savagebrother,
Just took another look......that is a great looking rifle period.
You are justly proud.
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Post by savagebrother on Sept 13, 2010 21:35:30 GMT -5
thanks bigmoose i have been well satisfied with it since i first picked it up.
i enjoy carrying it in the field.
sb
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Post by jeremylong on Sept 17, 2010 13:25:32 GMT -5
Those look good!
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Post by boarhog on Sept 17, 2010 19:40:58 GMT -5
I agree with Bigmoose! I just love the look of those Ruger #1s. I don't know why I've never acquired one??? My Step Son has one in 338 Win Mag, that I covet!
Boarhog
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