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Post by dave d. on Jul 11, 2009 21:49:41 GMT -5
:)guys took the pac-nor encore out for it's second range trip today to see if i could follow up that 1/2" group @200yrds i had last week and it's safe to say it was no fluke.the scope did not slip this trip(thank's guys for all the little tips to stop it) and today the temps were around 80 degrees with a varying 10 to 12mph breeze.all shot's were 58grs of h-4198,195bx,harvestor sabot,lit off with cci mag primer.here's 100yrds:  here's 200yrds(i really did call that third shot):  and for the grand finally and to this date the smallest group i've ever shot with a muzzleloader:  i ran out of 300yrd targets so i just used one of my 200yrd targets for this last group.if it wasn't for that one shot on that 200yrd target today i would have had 4 consecutive targets 1/2 moa or better.to say i'm happy is a understatement.i have 3 encore barrels that are all tack drivers so next week there getting packed up and sent out to get black iced. |
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Post by jims on Jul 11, 2009 22:35:50 GMT -5
Fine shooting, you must be happy with that gun.
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Post by Dave W on Jul 11, 2009 23:05:54 GMT -5
I don't know if it is all the airgun practice or what-but man can you get the most out of a gun! Spectacular results again and to top it off with the powder and bullet of your choice. Can't ask for more.
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Post by whyohe on Jul 12, 2009 6:25:18 GMT -5
nice shooting!!
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Post by sagittarius on Jul 12, 2009 8:46:28 GMT -5
No wonder you called this Topic "two and done", Dave.  That rifle has nothing more to prove. Great shooting !  |
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Post by dave d. on Jul 12, 2009 8:50:27 GMT -5
:)thank's guys.sag you got it...
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Post by rub153 on Jul 12, 2009 13:32:32 GMT -5
;D Dave D. Great job in creating another fine shooter. I am VERY excited that you choose the Encore as your platform on which to build. For those of us that may be interested in trying to duplicate what you have done could you please list the manufacture(s) and specifications. Thanks again--the targets you post time and time again are second to none.
rub153
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Post by Richard on Jul 12, 2009 16:38:44 GMT -5
Lookin' good dave...........!
Richard
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Post by craigf on Jul 12, 2009 16:53:08 GMT -5
Dave, that is some great groups. You are getting close to the point where it is not fair for the deer.  |
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Post by dave d. on Jul 12, 2009 18:56:44 GMT -5
;D Dave D. Great job in creating another fine shooter. I am VERY excited that you choose the Encore as your platform on which to build. For those of us that may be interested in trying to duplicate what you have done could you please list the manufacture(s) and specifications. Thanks again--the targets you post time and time again are second to none. rub153 :)guys thank's again.rub the barrel is a pac-nor 1" tube all the way out fluted 24"s long .45 22 twist chambered for a 5/8" plug.the lug was installed by ott and the plug was made by rb.then when i decided to go 209 for the meantime edge cut the pocket for me.ott would have cut the pocket but i was going to use acps and i stll might but this way would get me shooting sooner.even though it took i year to get i have something special.the barrel will go out this week for coating so no shooting till next month. |
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Post by grouse on Jul 12, 2009 20:40:49 GMT -5
Very nice shooting. I think the Duracoat is a better finish, you should check it out. |
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Post by chuck41 on Jul 12, 2009 22:14:18 GMT -5
Very nice. You have reason to be proud!!!
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Post by edge on Jul 13, 2009 7:49:25 GMT -5
Not too shabby, but I don't see it listed for sale yet...remember that I get first crack at it ;D ;D
edge.
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Post by rangeball on Jul 13, 2009 8:39:48 GMT -5
Dave, great shooting.
Out of curiosity, how much cooling time between shots?
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Post by dave d. on Jul 13, 2009 15:37:58 GMT -5
:)thank's again guys.range 5 minutes tops sometimes less.
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Post by rangeball on Jul 13, 2009 15:47:33 GMT -5
range 5 minutes tops sometimes less. Wow... in 80* temps with sabots... do you think you are getting by with this short a wait due to the 4198 not burning as hot, like N110 does? |
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Post by ET on Jul 13, 2009 22:54:20 GMT -5
Dave
Overall lovely shooting as usual and that 1.343” at 300yds is one heck of an accomplishment.
Your results with a 45 are touching (teasing) me again. ;D
Ed
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Post by dave d. on Jul 14, 2009 13:23:34 GMT -5
range it could be but I'm thinking it has alot to do with the lapped barrel.if I remember correctly the Douglas is not lapped. ed thankyou.
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Post by bigmoose on Jul 14, 2009 13:26:54 GMT -5
Outstanding
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Post by rangeball on Jul 14, 2009 15:22:08 GMT -5
range it could be but I'm thinking it has alot to do with the lapped barrel.if I remember correctly the Douglas is not lapped. ed thankyou. I don't think the douglas is lapped... pretty sure I asked them when I called... Makes me wonder if mine needs a good lapping... 5 minutes beats 15 minutes any day |
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Post by ozark on Jul 16, 2009 20:51:51 GMT -5
I am satisfied that the results can't all be credited to the rifle. It is nice to read about someone who has succeeded in their efforts. Congratulations and I will add one other comment. Not half of us readers could duplicate what you have done using the same rifle and load. Good job.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jul 17, 2009 5:06:04 GMT -5
I've reported here for a few years about 5 minute wait times using hefty charges of H4198 in my gun. While I don't always shoot cloverleafs, I can't remember blowing a sabot. Would blow them all the time in the early days and 42-44 gr N110 and 250 gr bullets.
I feel for you guys that only shoot 3-4 times an hour or have to use barrel coolers. Do I have a slick barrel? I don't know. As far as I know it's a plain-jane stock SS barrel.
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Post by rangeball on Jul 17, 2009 9:34:34 GMT -5
Wilms, your posts were in the back of my mind when I posted above. If I could get 4198 to be pressure reliable with 250 gr saboted bullets in my .50 at 2300 fps, I'd be using it. 4 shots per hour is... tedious.
I'm looking into making a barrel cooler now.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jul 17, 2009 17:08:31 GMT -5
Maybe a duplex with a minor charge of 5744 or 4759 would be the ticket? Dunno. H4198 is not a powder for single use at those speeds and a 250 gr bullet....IMO
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Post by moto357 on Jul 17, 2009 17:14:16 GMT -5
shooting 57gr IMR4198 in the SMI .45 yesterday in 65º temps and with about a 5 min wait blew the third sabot
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Post by shooter on Jul 26, 2009 10:35:16 GMT -5
I don't know if it is all the airgun practice or what-but man can you get the most out of a gun! Spectacular results again and to top it off with the powder and bullet of your choice. Can't ask for more. I 2 that!!! Awesome shooting that is amazing shooting. :)Dave you are the Man 1.34inhes at 300yrds now that what i call Amazing. |
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Post by larry on Jul 26, 2009 15:17:34 GMT -5
Hey Dave, What size VL are you using. Tks, Larry
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Post by dave d. on Jul 26, 2009 15:20:32 GMT -5
:)larry in the encore a .031 carbide bushing and in my rem .033 et vent screw.
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Post by dave d. on Jul 26, 2009 15:24:55 GMT -5
I don't know if it is all the airgun practice or what-but man can you get the most out of a gun! Spectacular results again and to top it off with the powder and bullet of your choice. Can't ask for more. I 2 that!!! Awesome shooting that is amazing shooting. :)Dave you are the Man 1.34inhes at 300yrds now that what i call Amazing. :)dave and Marty thankyou very much. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 18:46:59 GMT -5
looks like dave will have a pacnor for the tc named after him too,might as well make a spec sheet Dave I can see the orders stacking up now ......awesome performance........ Bill  |
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