:)If you were getting a wpn for concealed carry, what would it be and why? Thanks. I do reload and have shot a S&W K-22 for the past 30 years and am relatively proficient with it. Another pistol I've shot a lot is a S&W model 29, 12 5/8" barrel. Concealability is a major problem with it . My hobby is precision shooting which carries over to pistols also. That said, the pistol shooting has always been of a sporting nature, not self defense.
I carry a Glock 27. But that doesn't mean anything. The reason I carry it is I shoot glocks. If your a S&W revolver man carry a revolver. You can load a revolver, set it aside for 20 years come back and it (will) work. No mag springs to worry about. S&W is making some new Scandium framed guns that are super light. However I shot a 357 mag of that construction, after the first two shots I didn't want to shoot the last three. I really like the S&W model 36 5 shot .38 2 in barrel. Also I don't remember clearly but I think Ruger and Federal came up with a hot little .32 round a few years ago. 325 mag or something like that I don't remember. But if I'm correct Would you be able to shoot .32 S&W long, 32 H&R Mag. in that gun also? In you last thread you mentioned Bear I know nothing about them but I would think a .12 ga. with slug would be a minimum . Hope it helps Warren
John and 161, Thank you for your replies. Bear: with a CCHL, in AR, we can carry a "pistol", not a long gun, when bow hunting. A sawed off 12g with <12" barrel would "press to test" . Ideally, a person needs at least a good practical concealable handgun and another gun to take as back-up when hunting. A "do-all" gun would likely be too much of a compromise in both directions.
I carry a glock 36, single stack 45acp. I don't think I would have any problems carrying a 9mm or larger semi or a 38spl or larger revolver. I know a smaller gun would work, just not what I am familiar with.
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Since 1992, I have carried a 4 inch Ruger GP100 .357 mag. (DA Revolver) This gun requires creative concealment techniques...especially in the summer. Inside the belt holster in pants or shorts that are an inch to big in the waist...and a belt. I carry the same gun in a exposed hip holster in deer season and on walks in the woods.
What I like:
-Adjustable sights -Extremely reliable functionally -Wide variety of factory 38 & 357 loadings -Ease of reloading for cheap practice -Easy to shoot accurately -6 shots ought to be enough -Been on my side for 17 years so we are now married and know each other very well. No kids yet. ;D
-Slightly too big for the summer. I use a inside the waist holster, ride it a little back on the hip and wear a shirt, untucked.
This gun is shot a lot. Confidence in it is great. Very durable gun. More then enough power. Double action makes you know that if you shoot it was intended. The comfort I feel when having it with me is greater then the discomfort of its' digging into my hip.
Steve..........Having carried a gun full time for 28 years I can tell you this: If its too bulky, you are not going to carry it. The last duty weapon I carried was the Sig P226. For off duty, the Sig P 239 (both 9mm) (which was required to be carried while in our jurisdiction) Even the 239 is too big when your wearing a t-shirt and shorts. I also have a Sig P-230 (.380) but it is still bulky. About three months ago, after seeing a lot of adds for the Kel-Tec .380 and then physically handling one, I was sold! I now have one and carry it in a DeSantis rubber/vinyl pocket holster. 11 oz loaded. With the standard two hand hold, at 7 yds. I put together a nice 2.5" five shot group. That was with my reloads which pushed a 110 gr. HP at 900 fps. The Fed. self defense loads which use a 90 gr. bullet come out at 985 fps. The thing is, it is light weight, concealable and plenty potent for "self defense" Note: I did not say it was my choice for an offensive weapon. For that, it would be the .45 ACP!! Richard
I have had a whole slew of pistols/revolvers over the years. Never fired a shot in anger or saw the elephant so I am no expert. I can tell you I agree with the poster above. If it is too big you will find yourself leaving it home or in the car. I have had 1911's, model 19, 13, 36, 25, scandium snub 357, s&W, Khar 40, glock 29, etc., which almost all were sold or traded off for various reasons. I still find myself going back to my first which is a cheap ass charter arms .38 snub. The thing go's bang every time. I practice occasionally with it, with left and right hand at about 6 feet. I can hit a silhouette target in the face every time with either hand five out of five, it won't blow your ears out either, shoot it at 25 yards and I can hit a 1 x 1 square 5x5 aimed. No doubt a 1911 or med or full size glock sig or what ever is better. When I go into the woods where there is something that can bite (not Alaska) I carry either a titanium .41 mag or a single action ruger .45 LC both with big hard cast. They work for me, and I can hit stuff. The big hard cast kill things and go through stuff. They also blow up big globs of mud, water, wood, turtles, snakes, wood chucks, red squirrels, possums, feral cats, or whatever fun stuff you decide to blast, and I have no doubt they would cleanly ventilate any dirt bag that gave me, my wife or my dog any trouble.
Any gun is better than nothing if you can shoot it and it is reliable. My buddy just bought a .22 mag 4 shot derringer called a pug. That thing is nasty.
Post by huntingmike on Apr 18, 2009 19:50:32 GMT -5
I have tried carrying the bigger 40 cal. SW Taurus. I just keep it in the truck now.
A friend recommended a Kel- tec .32 semi auto. It is hammerless, no safety and I can put it in a cloth pocket holster and can carry it in my front pocket or back pocket or use a clip holster for my belt. I have used it for five years and I like it because it is so light and very accurate at normal range.
Post by artjr338wm on Apr 28, 2009 18:51:26 GMT -5
I have a slightly different take on things and will tell you why I bought a higher capacity XD in 40S&W. I fish a whole lot at a beautiful little lake in a city park close to my home in NW IN. It is in a "low crime" town by definition. About 2/3rds the time I take one or both of my sons with me.
If I fish it in the evenings, I park at a lot not on park property so I do not have to worry about being out right at dark, as are the rules. I was working 60-70hrs a week back in 07 and did not fish there for about 3 weeks. Pulled into the lot at sun rise and while walking into the entrance to the park, noticed some one had shot 6-7 holes in a parking regulatory sign. I was pointing this out to my 6yr old when I heard a car pulling in the lot. It was the DNR police. I voiced my extreme displeasure at the shot up sign and said this is what gives a bad name to all gun owners. The DNR officer replied, "did you hear what happened here two week ends ago?" I replied no I've been basically working and sleeping for the last 4 months. He goes on to tell me some fine young men from Chicago brought 3 colleges of theirs from Gary here right after sun set, tied up, knelt them down and shot them all in the back of the head. One survived and after the killers left found help.
I ASAP went out and bought a Springfield XD SC/HC in .40 S&W. It conceals vary well and offers me the choice of either 10 or 14 rounds of .40 S&W. I know stumbling into the above situation represents the worlds worst case scenario, but it did actually happen at a place I frequent with my sons no less. Would not like to have to deal with two or more people in that situation with a 5-6 shot revolver or a .32 auto. When I go fishing with my sons I take the 13 round clip as it is easily concealed under my fishing vest. With this set up I have almost the equivalent of a 1911 with an extra clip. Like I said, the odds of finding myself in the middle of the above situation are in all honesty, up there with me winning the lotto in terms of odds, but there is no disadvantage to carrying a high capacity XD in terms of conceal ability while I'm fishing, so why not?.
Just my thoughts.
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I recently decided that i wanted a couple of new pistols in a caliber that is hotter than a 9mm and higher capacity than a 45ACP. I wanted a small conceal type pistol and i wanted the other to be a larger high capacity pistol and i wanted both to be the same caliber. After much debate and research i decided on a Glock 27 .40 S&W for the conceal pistol (9+1 capacity) and i decided on a Springfield Armory XDM .40 S&W (16+1 capacity) for the high capacity pistol. I am impressed with the quality and the reviews of both of these models and the ballistics/capacity of the .40 S&W is impressive compared to many other pistol calibers. I have always stayed away from semi-autos for personal/home protection because of the "jam factor". After reading tons of reviews on both these models, it has made me reconsider and now i don't think i would hesitate to rely on either of these fine pistols for personal protection. There are an awful lot of nice semi-auto and revolver style pistols out there any more and you can be certain of finding something to fit your needs............
Jims, I showed a couple of buddies my two new pistols the other day and one of them went out and bought two identical pistols a few days later. The other one went out and bought the Glock 27 but passed on the XDM. Those little 27's are really a neat pistol for concealed carry.......
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Glad you found something you like. I think you made a wise choice. I put a guy through the officer training when the XD first came out. I was sceptically if it would work or not. Out of 900rds. without cleaning he had three malfunctions. And I think some or all were operator issues.
Post by Hossdaniels on May 3, 2009 14:31:01 GMT -5
I have a s&w m&p that is great to shoot, not so easy to carry. I can usually keep my kahr k9 on me. I never was sold on .380's. I am not 100% comfy with a 9mm, but I feel better than I would with a 380.
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Steve..........Having carried a gun full time for 28 years I can tell you this: If its too bulky, you are not going to carry it. Richard
Keeping with this principle, and knowing myself, I ended up with a Ruger LCP. It fits perfectly and I can hit fairly well with it. I will likely get a lazer type site, depending on how well I will be able to shoot without it. I will handload for it since I practice using whatever I have a whole lot. I will likely carry it with factory ammo. In time, I plan to add the Ruger 101 327 to my carry guns. Keeping with Pallidin, I may keep my North American Arms 22 mag in a coat pocket also . It helped him more than once ;D.
Post by runningdog on Jun 21, 2009 16:53:47 GMT -5
I , like SW also carry an American Arms 22 mag in my pocket. I had been carrying a S & W chief special in 38 Cal. I just received my NEW carry: A Nighthawk Talon ll Bobtail 45 ACP. It carries well and is really accurate.
I have also had that little North American Arms .22 mag revolver for over 20 years now. While I mostly carry the Kel-Tec .380, there are times it too, is a little bit bulky. Then the NAA .22 mag. goes in the pocket! ;D. The Sig P239 is in one night stand and the P230 in the wife's nightstand! ;D ;D Richard
Post by thelefthand on Sept 27, 2009 19:18:46 GMT -5
Primary carry is a Kimber Compact 1911. This is the handgun that I shoot the most at the range. I probably have close to 20K on it. Love this gun. Secondary is a Khar K40. It would be better with a polymer frame. I wouldn't hesitate to carry a glock, sig, or several others, but this is what I have and what I like. I don't like carrying anything smaller than a .357 mag.
I replied to this post earlier stating I usually carry a glock 36 (45 auto) but since then I picked up a taurus 85 ultralight I carry in a pocket holster somedays.
My wife also got her ccw so I bought her a new toy today. It's a taurus model 709 9mm for her to carry. I will take it to the range and run a few hundred rounds through it before I let her wander the streets with it though.
being of relatively large stature(6'2 215lbs) I carry a full size 1911 government in a galco leather inside the waistband holster. i also carry a 7 shot 357 mag in a leather belt slide holster from time to time depending on what im wearing. i am a deputy sheriff here in virginia and my department issues glock 21s. there is no way that anyone could possibly conceal one of those,maybe if you hid it in a prostetic leg.