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Post by lunchbox on May 5, 2011 13:15:49 GMT -5
Beretta 92F or the SIG 226. In the service I used the beretta so I am used to that one and I own one now. I have always admired the SIG but never had the chance to shoot one.
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Post by rossman40 on May 5, 2011 16:10:07 GMT -5
Once you shoot the SIG you will wonder how much someone got paid to give the contract to Beretta. The 92F is a decent pistol but the SIG is so much more compact and with the aluminum frame lighter. If you buy used look for one newer then 1996, older ones had the stamped and welded slide where as the newer ones are milled. The mack daddy model I like is a P226 X-Five Tactical which are actually hand made in Germany and you will pay about $1400 but you have competition ready pistol that will compete with any race gun.
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Post by lunchbox on May 5, 2011 17:26:31 GMT -5
The X-5 is a single action pistol isn't it?
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Post by rossman40 on May 5, 2011 18:40:16 GMT -5
You can get them in DA/SA also. You have to order them and it takes like 3 months and when you special order a SIG you can tell them what you want. I just looked at the SIG site and it appears that the German made X-Fives are now the "Mastershop Series". The X-Five Tactical I looked at a few years ago had the black stainless slide with the front serrations, a black stainless frame with the front rail and beavertail, a black anodized magwell with 19 round mags, a DA/SA trigger that was "like butter" and had black grips and was marked "Made in Germany". And yes I drooled all over it. Now it looks like the US made X-Fives are $1400 and the German ones are $2000+
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Post by lunchbox on May 5, 2011 19:31:34 GMT -5
Thanks Rossman. Would you say the german is better than the american? Or would an average shooter be able to tell the difference?
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Post by rossman40 on May 6, 2011 1:55:56 GMT -5
I havn't played with a US made X-Five but the German one I got a chance to play with was awesome. Once you get used to it I do not think you could tell much difference unless you shoot 10,000 rounds a year. It basicly depends on what you want to do with the pistol, home defense and some range time just a plain jane P226 would do you well. If the gun-phobic Chicago Democrats ever let Illinois have CCW a regular P226 would be better.
The SIG I shot most in competition is my P220 in 9mm which is kinda rare. It has a single stack mag so the grip is thinner then a P226 or P228/P229 and it points so good it is on target from the draw I don't have to look at the sights. Probly the best handling SIG is a P225 which is a smaller version of the P220 in 9mm. Great for concealed carry, they are not made for the public nowadays but you can pick up factory refurbished police trade-ins. You can pick up a regular P226 but what sets the X-Fives apart is the extra 1/2" of barrel and slide and the beavertail which really helps with the way the pistol handles the recoil. You also have to look at the frame material. Most SIGs have hard anodized aluminum frames but some models will have stainless steel frames. The SS frames add about 10ozs to the weight of the pistol, great for target shooting but if your going to carry it the 10oz makes a big difference.
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Post by lunchbox on May 9, 2011 18:22:30 GMT -5
Rossman,
Did you reload for your P226? I was reading on Sig's web site that they do not recomend using reloads. I think if I were to start shooting say a couple thousand rounds a year or so with it that I would want to reload. What do you think?
Thanks
Lunchbox
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Post by rossman40 on May 9, 2011 19:57:30 GMT -5
If you look no maker recommends reloads. I stopped reloading for pistols when I could get cheap surplus 9mm, now that stuff is gone. Even when I was shooting .40 I was paying $170 (1000rds) a case for PMC. When I did reload I used cast lead in the bullseye days and then when I started IDPA I used double plated Berry's bullets. Unless you use lead cast or plated bullets it isn't much cheaper once you figure in your time. Cleaning up range brass sucks.
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