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Post by dougedwards on Apr 20, 2011 19:25:21 GMT -5
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Post by sagittarius on May 16, 2011 9:52:31 GMT -5
Hello, Doug. That's not too bad a price since the bow was $1,500.00 new but I believe, I would rather put that $900.00 toward a new Scorpyd 165, now that the issues with the cams and cables seem to be resolved. Or, maybe, put the money toward a Tac-15.  Or my favorite recurve, Kodabow.  |
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Post by sw on Jul 5, 2011 11:50:55 GMT -5
Doug,
The original Stryker x-bow was a flop. It is huge, heavy, ungainly, and wears out servings very quickly. Yes, it had the highest performance to date, when introduced, but the price in size, weight, maintanence, and cost was just too high. Even at this price, it is not a good deal, IMO. The Strykezone package for well less than $1,000 shoots a 433g arrow at 362'/sec(399g arrow @ 379) and weighs 6.9#, is quite small and the quietest x-bow I've ever almost not heard. The Desert Stryker, Strykeforce(neither in production any longer) and the Strykezone 350 and 380 are all excellent x-bows. However, the original BT offering is a far cry from these 4 x-bows.
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Post by dougedwards on Jul 5, 2011 20:59:14 GMT -5
Boy....makes you wonder where it can all end. Will there be a 500 fps capable crossbow in the future??
Doug
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Post by sw on Jul 6, 2011 13:54:33 GMT -5
Boy....makes you wonder where it can all end. Will there be a 500 fps capable crossbow in the future?? Doug Likely, as will v-bow speeds also increase. BT's major advance with the SZs is moderately fast performance in a light, small, very quiet package. Performance, as all of us know, is not measured just in '/sec. Scorpyd still is the fastest as far as I know. I think 500'/sec in a small, quiet, durable package will not be easy to obtain, but I think it will be done. |
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Post by dougedwards on Jul 6, 2011 18:12:03 GMT -5
My Excaliber is very loud. What about the Stryker and Scorpyd and Strykeforce. Do they also have a sizable amount of recoil and noise? I would think that the smaller packages would be harder on the shoulder and ears.
Doug
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Post by sw on Jul 6, 2011 21:57:48 GMT -5
The Strykeforce is fairly quiet. The SZ is amazingly quiet. It is the quietest cb I've ever almost not heard. I've shot the Stryker, when it came out, but have forgotten about the noise. I don't think it was particularily loud.
The SZ has set a new plateau of sophistication . Quiet, fast, light small, balanced, comparatively low priced...
I forgot-the best trigger imaginable on a x-bow. Slightly less than 3# and very little creep .
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Post by sagittarius on Jul 8, 2011 14:28:43 GMT -5
Here's a video on the Scorpyd 165 which is the current world's fastest, for those who may not have seen it. Gearhead was thinking about releasing a model that did 500 to 600 fps last year but they seem to have disappeared.  |
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Post by artjr338wm on Sept 9, 2011 16:16:12 GMT -5
I know I am in the minority in my thinking and maybe I am just plane wrong, but I have been of the strong opinion that compounds for years and now cross bows are way past being over priced and have crossed in to the teratory of insain in terms of cost. You can include sights and quivers as well.
My favorite rifle a 338wm M700 in stainless synthetic cost me only $600, you can easly spend over $1000 on a new quiver, sight and bow from Hoyt, Mathews, or BT, or rather it would be kinda hard not to.
To each his own to spend ones money.
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Post by dougedwards on Sept 9, 2011 22:01:34 GMT -5
I know I am in the minority in my thinking and maybe I am just plane wrong, but I have been of the strong opinion that compounds for years and now cross bows are way past being over priced and have crossed in to the teratory of insain in terms of cost. You can include sights and quivers as well. My favorite rifle a 338wm M700 in stainless synthetic cost me only $600, you can easly spend over $1000 on a new quiver, sight and bow from Hoyt, Mathews, or BT, or rather it would be kinda hard not to. To each his own to spend ones money. In a period of economic strain, college tuition and cost of archery equipment continues to spiral upwards. I wonder where it might end? Doug |
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Post by Rifleman on Sept 10, 2011 16:30:54 GMT -5
Perhaps Robin Hood became a robber to pay off his college loans....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 16:35:32 GMT -5
Big Game Hunting Gear is targeted for the man with deep pockets. I don't own a x-bow and probably never will unless
I physically need one for bow season.
I am sorry to say Doug,
there will be no end to the madness.
Whoever HAS the money will keep these companies afloat by buying the new model every year.
What will stop the improved technology of faster anything, will be
when it won't be LEGAL to hunt with .
I am facing that dilemna in Florida with smokeless powder being
"MODERN" I am not supposed to shoot it during muzzleloading season.
The cva electra was another technological breakthrough that is
ILLEGAL to hunt with.
I'm all into making something better,stronger,faster but the gov.
is the one thats going to let the bar be raised so far.
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Post by sw on Sept 25, 2011 15:21:17 GMT -5
Art,
For the people who have to have the newest and best
life can be quite expensive. These hunting shows seem to
prey on people who "must" have the best and are gullable
in other areas. used x-bows and v bows can be great bargains.
To me, I am best served with the $749 SZ 380 package
price independent. $179 combo Bushnell 850 rangefinder
and 10/42 binos go well with this modestly priced combination.
My x-bow in my main hunting instrument since we have no
cf and very few ML days where i live. Bow/x-bow is what
we have here. I agree, compound v and x bows seem pretty
expensive. A new one every year or 2 would be very expensive.
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Post by davewolf on Dec 25, 2011 23:11:10 GMT -5
I've watched this sport grow and grow akin to they way fly fishing grew after the classic, "A river runs through it." I keep thinking that someone will come up with a good bow at a lower price and in turn everyone will bring their prices down too.
I can buy two ML's for the price I paid for my 10-pt X-bow.
But I do like my bow and will continue to hunt with it.
Here in PA, crossbow sales are surpassing compound sales since they have become legal to hunt with during bow season.
The bottom line is; charge what the market will bear. I foresee a peaking out coming within the next few years. But until then?
My 10-pt has brought me three deer thus far--two bucks and all were pass throughs. I've been using G5 Montagues (sp?) stainless steel with fixed blades.
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by woodywilliams on Apr 1, 2012 18:33:50 GMT -5
I don't think you can even get parts for the Stryker anymore.
TenPoint makes and excellent crosbow under their Wicked Ridge name that is right at $500. It's a lifetime bow.
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Post by sw on Apr 7, 2012 16:36:59 GMT -5
Many x-bows have lifetime warranties for the original owner. Limbs will eventually break on most x-bows. I get appx 1,500 shots per limb set on my #175 Parker Saf Mag that has appx 4,500 shots on it. Three sets of limbs have ben replaced for free. It is my backup x-bow. I love it! I shot a Strykeforce over 2,600 shots with only the cam bushings going out. I owed a BIG favor for a friend of mine and gave it to him. My Strykezone380 has appx 600 trouble free shots thru it. Eventually the SZ will become my backup bow and my son and grandson will likely use the Parker more. My son(25 years old) loves the Saf Mag. So, all this to say, they don't need replaced yearly or even very often. Remember Excaliber sables have unconditional lifetime warranties . To me, there is more to a good x-bow than what's in a basic rifle. A good compound x-bow can easily serve well over 10 years and a recurv x-bow, indefinitely.
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Post by dougedwards on Apr 12, 2012 7:09:34 GMT -5
The lifetime guarantee in the compound bow world extends so far as the manufacturer is still making the parts for that particular model. Sometimes you are out of luck in only 5-6 years. Mathews employs unused parts to use in their Mission line of bows so all parts are pretty much available for 10 years or so.
I did dry fire my Excaliber Exomax once and cracked a limb. They were very accommodating and they have not made any significant changes to the structure and set up of their crossbows since their inception to my knowledge so I think that parts should be readily accessible for some time.
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Post by mike3132 on Apr 15, 2012 13:07:40 GMT -5
I bought a Barnett Jackal xbow last year. It shoots a 425 grain arrow 306 across my chrony and is very accurate with a great trigger. Its molded plastic stock 150lbs limbs. I did a lot of research on the net before I bought it and the Jackal had great reviews by most owners.
Its not in the class with Tenpoint or Excaliber but for the $325.00 I paid for the xbow, bolts, quiver and sight its hard to beat. This bow will kill out past distances I want to shoot. Im set up for 35 yards and it will robin hood arrows if you shoot at the same spot. For someone who is looking to get into xbow hunting and not spend a lot of money this is the outfit to buy. Mike
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