i have a moosburg 835 with a rifled barrel,what would be a good factory slug load for it an how accurate are these guns at say 100 yds, if never shot slugs so i thought i'd try it out this year. any pros or cons on this?
Post by wilmsmeyer on Sept 23, 2010 17:55:59 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I have a lot of experience in shooting saboted slugs. I say unfortunately because it's expensive.
If you want 3-4 inch groups at 100 yds, most saboted slugs may do well. If you are after 1-2 inches, you have to play....and pay.
I've owned 3 rifled slug guns and the load of choice was different for them all. I was after 1-2 inch groups. Even with a preferred load it did seem to matter lot to lot with ammo.
Probably not much different from us muzzleloaders. Things like sabot material and sabot size probably matter to a degree.
Some things some probably do not consider is their scope and mounts. Shotguns typically are not the best suited platforms for even the best mounts and rings. You have "barrel slop" with a pump or auto. We are limited to cantilever barrels or strap on mounts that do not take advantage of the best ammo out there.
I had a NEMF single barrel, "cheapo" that shot everything....and Ithaca Deerslayer from 1989 that has the barrel threaded into the receiver that shot many thing acceptable. My gun now is a Mossberg 9200 Autoloader with a cantilever barrel. The only way it will shoot good is if I take channel locks and tighten the forearm screw so tight that I can't undo it by hand. Then, it LOVES the 1 OZ Barnes EXP in 2 3/4 in at standard velocity. Hates the 3/4 oz version as well as the 3" version. Shoots most everything else OK MOA deer to 100 yds. Surprisingly. it also shoots $3.00 a box fosters well enough to kill deer at 100 yds. and that's what I use now when I use this gun. I am done with the $15/5 shot loads. If I am expecting a longer shot, I have the ML. If on a drive or walking thru the woods, the fosters have become my slug.
If I were rich, I would buy a 1,000 lot of Barnes 1oz EXP's and be done. Thay also do a great job on every der I've killed with them...like the one in my avitar.
Slugs suck when trying to settle on consistency...and the platforms mostly used suck. Find a single shot or bolt to settle that part of it if you are required to slug it. OR....do some radical things like pinning your barrel.
I have a rem 870 Wing Master, I have had for 30 yrs anf probable 5000 shots thru it. I had it sleaved yrs ago with a Brialey Choke. Mine you, this is a smooth bore. Thea breniky KO is amaseing and the old rem rifled slug is even more amaseing. The 7/8 oz rifled slug even hits the center of my 00B pattern. Do not make the mistake of thinking that more expensive is ALWAYS better. There is a reason these slugs are still selling and it ain't only that they are cheap. Please try them first and you might be happy you did. Just my two Rusty PS I shoot better than I spell
Last Edit: Sept 23, 2010 18:19:01 GMT -5 by deadon
Don't waste forty years making the same mistakes I did WHEN all you have to do is ask! Just an old man who cares.
I have had interesting experiences with the search for the holy grail with slug guns and finally gave up and went to a MZ loader. I had smooth bores, pumps and a savage bolt which was the best to date that I had tried.
I found that the expensive slugs were the most accurate (sabot) but gave up on them, when I could shoot regular Winchester fosters almost as good out to 100yards. Gun shop employees hate it when you tell them that though. I had good luck with the Remington buck hammers, the various Brennikes also. The big 1 3/8 super slugs really beat the hell out of your body though.
I always liked the Brennikkes the best because they always shot through deer every time from nearly any angle. However, over time I found out that they did not stop deer as well as regular fosters especially in close, unless you hit bone. This is a factor where I hunt, as a mortally hit deer running off your property is often not yours anymore, once off your land.
Try a few brands. Out to 100 yards I would try the various fosters and the Rem buck hammers. If you have the opportunity to shoot past 100 try some of the high enders.
Contrary to popular belief, it is fine to shoot fosters out of rifled barrels. It will not hurt them in the least. If you get leading, just get a copper pot scrubber pad and put some on your bore brush, a few swipes and leading is gone.