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Feb 14, 2010 1:01:28 GMT -5
Post by moachallenge on Feb 14, 2010 1:01:28 GMT -5
Hello, I just started shooting 10ML-II, and would like to learn more about improving accuracy. So far, my accuracy is horrible, but I am sure it will get better. I started a blog to log the steps I am taking toward MOA. Please visit and comment whatever advice you have. Whenever I have a question, I always come back to this site for help since everyone here is so knowledgeable. I just want to say thank you!
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Feb 14, 2010 6:21:46 GMT -5
Post by whyohe on Feb 14, 2010 6:21:46 GMT -5
welcome to the board! read tips and hint, and ask questions. well get you on the right track to accuracy.
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Feb 14, 2010 9:10:30 GMT -5
Post by ozark on Feb 14, 2010 9:10:30 GMT -5
First, If you haven't already, disassemble the rifle to include the breech plug and vent liner. Give it a thorough cleaning. Scrub the bore until a tight fitting white patch can be pushed through and out without becoming soiled or colored. Savage coats the bore with something that is difficult to get clean. During assembly torque the screws to specifications and shoot a couple of rounds just to settle the action in the stock. Not at a target. With the 300 Grain bullet try 42 grains of the powder you have using a good solid rest on sand bags or a mechanical rest. After each shot wait until the rifle barrel is cool to the touch before firing the next shot. A MOA at 100 yards is 1 inch. Pressure to seat the sabot/bullet should be rather difficult. After you feel the bullet reach the fully seated position use the palm of your hand to give the ram rod a couple or three good raps. Mark your ram rod to indicate that a round is in the barrel. Tape can be used. This is a safety measure to tell you when the rifle is charged and to prevent you from double charging it. When shooting insure that you are consistent with the manner and pressure that you hold the rifle against your shoulder, grip the foreend and the grip used with the trigger finger hand. Number the holes in your target so that you can determine if the first round is good and which ones are going wild. If you are shooting with a known good shot have them use your rifle to shoot a three shot group with you doing the loading. Try swabing between shots and shooting without swabing. Some rifles react differently. And don't become disheartened if you don't get 1.5 Inch groups at 100 yards right away. Good luck. I like your using the blog to record your changes and progress.
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Feb 14, 2010 10:01:08 GMT -5
Post by ET on Feb 14, 2010 10:01:08 GMT -5
Moachallenge.
Welcome Aboard.
The 10ML-II is capable of MOA shooting but there is a learning curve with many variables that needs to be understood. So rule #1 change only 1-variable at a time and observe the results. Record these results in a notebook or on your targets if you plan to keep them. There’s nothing worse than chasing your tail with altering many variables at once or forgetting what worked to improve your accuracy and what didn’t.
From a starting point I would first replace the original ramrod with a solid aluminum ramrod and top it with a Spin Jag loading jag. Next I would learn to index my sabots so that 2-lands ride on each petal. Here I would then observe the land impressions on the sabot to see if they are fine lined and no jagged appearance to ensure no burrs are on the land edges. Burrs can really chew up sabots affecting accuracy. Also while doing this observe if there is any load resistance change going down the bore.
As for sabots I am a Harvester follower that gives me my best results. Any sabot is temper mental with heat. Allowing or assisting a barrel to cool back down to ambient temperature between shots is necessary for best repeatable shots.
As for basic modifications to stock equipment I recommend full receiver bedding and behind the recoil lug. Also bed the tip of the recoil lug. While bedding the receiver the addition of a 3rd pillar is beneficial IMO. This helps the receiver to remain in it’s exact position and reduces any torque action on the remaining front hold down screw when removing or installing the breech plug. Also the barrel needs to be checked for free floating when doing the bedding operation.
And there’s more but with what has been mentioned by others and myself you have a good starting point to work from.
Ed
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Feb 16, 2010 23:43:34 GMT -5
Post by moachallenge on Feb 16, 2010 23:43:34 GMT -5
I appreciate the warm welcome. I will try to update my site before and after the range session to record what I did new. Whenever I have a question, I will be back and check the logs. Thank you very much.
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Feb 26, 2010 2:12:26 GMT -5
Post by mindee on Feb 26, 2010 2:12:26 GMT -5
I live in Monroeville, PA..I looked forward to listening to the show on 1550FM on my way to work...Suddenly to my regret and utter disbelief..the "IMUS" show has replaced it... Why are you not broadcasting here????Please come back...
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