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Post by Indianahunter on Nov 22, 2009 17:04:32 GMT -5
I've just purchased a new Ruger M77 in .44 mag and would like to reload to give it the best possible performance... Any thoughts?
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Post by mike3132 on Nov 23, 2009 14:17:53 GMT -5
I worked up some loads for DanS .44 Marlin using 270 grain Gold Dots. 20.0 H110 shot the best. I really believe 240 grain bullets are the most accurate for the .44 mag rifle. Using a 240 XTP with max load of H110 you will be shooting around 1800 - 1900 FPS which is a deer killer out to 150 yards. Mike
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Post by Indianahunter on Nov 24, 2009 9:20:18 GMT -5
Thanks,
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Post by mountainam on Nov 25, 2009 21:08:47 GMT -5
Another powder you may want to try with your 240 XTP's is Hodgdon LIL' GUN. It's a high velocity load with not much more pressure. Start loads @ 22.5 grs.--Max loads @ 24.5 grs. Usually yields an additional 60-70 fps more than H110 on a grain for grain comparison.
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Post by boarhog on Nov 28, 2009 23:47:26 GMT -5
I get my best speed and accuracy with 240 and 300 gr XTPs using H-110 powder. 23 gr with the 240 gr, and 21 gr with 300 gr bullets. Recently, I loaded some of the new 265 gr Hornady FTX over 21.5 gr H-110 to try. Accuracy is outstanding in my Ruger .44 carbine, but I have not yet chrono'd the load. I have not tried Lil Gun.
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Post by mshm99 on Dec 26, 2009 11:13:22 GMT -5
It's hard to beat WW296 . Meters well, good hi-lo velocity spreads.
mshm
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Post by whelenman on Dec 26, 2009 14:11:35 GMT -5
It's hard to beat WW296 . Meters well, good hi-lo velocity spreads. mshm That's the powder I used some years back in my Ruger 44 Autoloader. I tried several but wound up with the W296 and 240JHPs. |
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Post by westernmdhunter on Dec 26, 2009 22:42:32 GMT -5
I use 23.0 grains of imr 4227 with 240 grain Hornady XTP's in my Ruger Carbine. A little dirty but it'll put the deer down, so I've never bothered changing to something else.
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Post by chickenhunter on Jan 2, 2010 15:34:22 GMT -5
I recently bought a Marlin 1894p. Have not had a chance to try but two loads I had loaded for my Dessert Eagle. I was a little surprised to find that a 210gr. Win. silver tip- 27.0gr. Win 296- MV 1865, shot under 1 inch at 100 yards. Shot through a 90lb. doe at 77yards.
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Post by whyohe on Jan 2, 2010 17:17:49 GMT -5
chickenhunter, i shot a doe that i thought was facing me threw the right rump at 40 yards and it went all the way to the heart! it was a 200 grn XTP moving at 1950 fps muzzle velocity.
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Post by Rifleman on Jan 5, 2010 18:54:33 GMT -5
W296 and H110 are the same powder.
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Post by mshm99 on Jan 6, 2010 20:28:45 GMT -5
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"W296 and H110 are the same powder. "
Yes and no. One powder is ball type the other is extruded. You can get more 296 in a case than H110. Don't leave out N110. The burn rate of the three are very close, but charges are not interchangeable . Of the 3 ,IMO N110 is the cleanest burning.
mshm
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Post by joe21a on Jan 9, 2010 9:50:55 GMT -5
If you try the Little gun use the loads published on the manf. web site. It can build a lot of pressure with only a small increase in powder weight. The loads they give seem to have a real low psi. and they claim you should not go any higher.
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Post by mshm99 on Jan 9, 2010 11:24:37 GMT -5
I forgot about little gun. That's even finer than 296.
mshm
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Post by hankinindiana on Feb 1, 2010 15:59:56 GMT -5
WW296 and H110 are the same. They are both ball powder made in Florida on the same line from the same machine. The only difference is the label on the bottle.
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Post by thelefthand on Feb 15, 2010 18:54:43 GMT -5
I shoot 24.0 gr of H110 and 240gr xtp out of my 10" contender. I don't see any reason this would not make a good carbine load. Dad and I have killed several deer with this load. It performs very well.
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Post by deadeer on Feb 16, 2010 12:57:42 GMT -5
I load the same load as the thelefthand mentioned for my buddy. He made a 120yd neck shot on a big doe with a scoped s&w629 8 3/8" barrel. Very accurate load for him.
Jay
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Post by canuck45 on Feb 12, 2016 0:30:52 GMT -5
I just started reloading 44mag for my model 1894 win. Lever gun. It came with a mold That casts 200 gn bullets
The bullets are .430 in dia. I have some red dot so I loaded 4 with 7 gn. The crony read around 1200 fps. The group was terrible and the bullets are tumbling. any thoughts on what might be wrong
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Post by motox369 on Feb 12, 2016 17:50:28 GMT -5
240 xtp 23 grain h110 has always worked for me 15 inch encore and 5.5 inch vaquero shoots great from both any load feom 22.5 to 24 grn h110 gives good results from alot of guns
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Post by canuck45 on Feb 12, 2016 22:24:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip that seems to be the powder of choice for the 44mag I called everywhere to get it. I finally found some online also I found some 240 gn gas checked cast bullets. if my 200 gn cast still don't stablize. The bore in the gun looks like new. Hope the new powder gets it shooting straight
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Post by ported45 on Mar 7, 2017 10:45:44 GMT -5
I just started reloading 44mag for my model 1894 win. Lever gun. It came with a mold That casts 200 gn bullets The bullets are .430 in dia. I have some red dot so I loaded 4 with 7 gn. The crony read around 1200 fps. The group was terrible and the bullets are tumbling. any thoughts on what might be wrong Measure the case mouth of a cartridge fired with a standard, commercial load. That diameter is what you should be casting to. This will help fill the throat and rifling thereby reducing flame cutting of the lead bullet that causes leading issues and poor accuracy. Some 1894's are known to have oversized bores to make matters worse (you could Google "slugging" your barrel to find out on yours). Some guys had to resort to oversized bullet molds to properly fill the rifling to get acceptable accuracy from cast bullets. Often, just switching to a jacketed bullet helps. |
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