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Post by rossman40 on Nov 16, 2009 9:16:29 GMT -5
Does anybody know anything about the elk hunting in KY? Thinking about putting in for the lottery for next years hunt. Seems like a bargain and close to home compared to going out west or to one of these pen shoots at a game ranch.
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Post by whelenman on Nov 16, 2009 15:59:29 GMT -5
How many hunts does Kentucky offer? Tennessee just offered their first hunts this year and only three were available to the public with the other two being used for fundraising. I put in for the hunt this year but the odds were about like hitting the lottery. All five hunters had good success though and it was a big production for the first year's hunt.
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 16, 2009 23:09:23 GMT -5
If I read correctly there was like 1000 for this year, 250 bull and 750 cow tags. There was only 400 for the 2008 season. $10 for the drawing and $30 for a resident elk tag and the non-resident tag is $365. The non-resident tag is still about the cheapest in the country.
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Post by jnrbronc on Nov 17, 2009 7:39:24 GMT -5
How's hunting access??
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Post by swede on Nov 17, 2009 11:03:43 GMT -5
the Outdoor Channel's program "Elk Chronicles" just had a program last week on Kentucky Elk hunting. It seems that the elk herd there is getting out of hand and causing quite a bit of damage where found in Kentucky. The program also stated that eastern elk are much larger because of better feed. From the pictures shown the bulls had mighty nice ivory. I do not recall what the hunter success rate is.
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 17, 2009 18:33:09 GMT -5
From what I can tell about 40,000 people put in for this years drawing for 1000 tags so you have a 1:40 chance. According to the KY FWR last years hunters had about a 90% success rate.
Supposedly if your name is drawn you will be sent a info pack telling you where to send the money and you have to pick your elk hunting unit (EHU), you get three choices and the tag is only good for that EHU. If your three choices are already filled you will be given one of the remaining ones at random. After the drawing for the EHUs they will send you another info packet telling you what EHU you got and a list of state licensed guides, public hunting areas and private land owners that will let you hunt on their land in the EHU. It is still up to you to find your spot and get permission of the landowner to hunt private property.
I was just hoping a board member was in the area to get the scoop.
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Post by pposey on Nov 24, 2009 11:49:52 GMT -5
Do ya have to use a guide?
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Post by rossman40 on Jan 17, 2010 2:51:11 GMT -5
From what I understand you do not have to use a guide. Guides also have to be licensed by the state. From what I understand you can take 2 helpers with you, Packing out even a small cow would be a job.
Last I heard the success rate for the 2009 season bull elk tags was 87%
I'm going to put in for the lottery and see what happens. If I win and have to buy a non-resident license I'll get my monies worth and do some deer hunting also.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 17, 2010 6:18:18 GMT -5
Are you going to use your Savage if you get a tag? If so, what loads are you thinking of?
I'm thinking Barnes coppers or BO's.....or one of screwbolts hardcast 330 gr slugs.
Good luck.
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Post by rossman40 on Jan 17, 2010 21:59:47 GMT -5
I got the 112 30-06 for real long range, for that I've been itching to try something new, really looking at Winchesters XP3. For the 10ML the BO would be the round. I did see the XP3 shotgun slugs on sale, 300gr but I wonder if they use a .458 bullet in those? The XP3 is the best of both worlds, lead core in the back half for good oburation and solid front half.
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Post by lwh723 on Jan 17, 2010 23:43:20 GMT -5
I got the 112 30-06 for real long range, for that I've been itching to try something new, really looking at Winchesters XP3. For the 10ML the BO would be the round. I did see the XP3 shotgun slugs on sale, 300gr but I wonder if they use a .458 bullet in those? The XP3 is the best of both worlds, lead core in the back half for good oburation and solid front half. I don't know what caliber is the of the 12g XP3, but I was not impressed with their performance on the deer my buddy shot with them this year. The deer died, but it appeared the bullet lost petals on 2 of the 3. Just this past week my brother and I were talking about doing any elk hunt. Hadn't thought about Kentucky at all. Doesn't sound too bad. The more I read up on hunting out West, the more discouraged I get. Looks like you really need to bring the $$ if you want to have a chance at a decent bull, not to mention the odds of both of us drawing bull tags at the same time are pretty much nil.  |
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Post by rossman40 on Jan 18, 2010 10:05:25 GMT -5
It is tough to just drop into an area and hunt. I often think the guides try to make their whole yearly income in one week. With elk hunting fairly new in KY, they haven't commercialized as much as out west YET. If you want to go on a hunt out there the guides will fix you up for a price. KY has started offering landowner tags if the landowner opens up his land for elk hunting. Now if they follow the way they do it out west, the landowner can auction off his tag or as they do out west, make a deal with a guide. If a landowner say puts 50,000 acres into the program he could get 10 landowner tags. Now his cousin, Clyde the guide, puts up that he has 10 guided elk hunts available for $10,000 for a bull or $5,000 for a cow and there are people that would pay that much. If Clyde or another guide can not book all the hunts the landowner could put the tag on Ebay and a prime elk tag on Ebay could go for over $10,000. The landowner made money that he can hide from the IRS and Clyde made cash money so he can sit in his house trailer back in the holler the rest of the year and have plenty of beer.
On the good side they say they want to maintain a elk heard of about 10,000 so 1500 tags a year is a good possibility.
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Post by artjr338wm on Jan 18, 2010 13:41:08 GMT -5
Rossman40, is this draw for KY residents only? I love to hunt elk above all other clothed activities in life. Have gone on four elk hunts out west all for bulls and have been successful 3 out of four times, 100% DIY hunts I might add.
Typically the draw odds I have to contend with vary from 1:33 (WY) to as high as 1:350 (UT, NV & AZ.)
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Post by rossman40 on Jan 18, 2010 15:32:32 GMT -5
The last I heard for this season they had a total of 46,000 applications for 1000 tags so it is 46:1.
When they originally started the lottery it was 10% went to out to non-resident hunters. I have been told that it is no longer the rule. They make too much money selling to non-residents. If a resident wins they get $30 and the guy buys a resident hunting license. If a non-resident wins they get $365 for the tag and the guy has to buy a non-resident license, a $135 one not a temporary. Plus the non-resident will probly get a motel room, maybe a guide, not to mention other stuff like eating out and last minute gear so it is a big boost for the local economy. At the end of the year they have another drawing basicly for unfilled tags to meet the quota. That is limited to residents mainly because it is a last minute thing.
You figure 46,000 put in for the lottery so that is $460,000. If they give just 400 tags to non-residents that is another $200,000 just to the state not too mention what they spent on the local economy.
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Post by artjr338wm on Jan 18, 2010 23:25:52 GMT -5
Thanks Rossman40.
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Post by redbud on Mar 29, 2014 16:10:28 GMT -5
I have been keeping up to date on hunting elk in Kentucky. The herd is getting larger but the odds of getting drawn to buy a permit is still quite low for a non-resident.
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Post by mike243 on Mar 30, 2014 19:01:39 GMT -5
A lot of the residents don't want out of state folks there if I am reading the different forums from Ky rite,I bought them for several years but after all of the negative comments on 1 of the boards I decided to save my $
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Post by tarheelpwr on Mar 31, 2014 11:19:15 GMT -5
They do the same thing in PA, and there is talks of opening up WV for elk this year. Not sure where it all lined out, but worth looking into if you're close to KY, can't be too much further to WV/PA.
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Post by jims on Mar 31, 2014 21:31:09 GMT -5
I would like to see them in Ohio. .
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Post by rossman40 on Apr 2, 2014 10:18:03 GMT -5
I read somewhere the last elk in Ohio was shot back in the 1830s, just a little north of your place Jim.
Michigan has a small elk herd they try to keep around 900-1200. They started it back in the early 1900s with just 7 animals. They get 30-40,000 aplications for just 120-200 tags a year. The herds "range" is up east of Gaylord. I used to go up to Grayling pretty regular while I was in the National Guard and we had a small group of 4-5 that ventured south and was out by the artillery range in the late 80s. One of our senior NCOs had a run in with them one night in his POV, he ended up totaling his new pick-up. Supposedly the Michigan DNR is trying hard to keep them off I-75 and targets the hunting zone around it. Hitting a 200lb deer is one thing, hitting a 400lb cow or a 900-1000lb bull can ruin your day.
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Post by jims on Apr 2, 2014 17:37:05 GMT -5
When one farmer was ditching to put tile in about 30 years ago or so in the Cranberry Prairie area (once a bit bog like before it was drained) they dug up an elk antler in the process.
We already have a large amount of deer/vehicle collisions with a great deal of insurance claims. Maybe nobody is too interested in getting double sized creatures on the roadway and except for the SE regions of Ohio perhaps the territory would not favor them.
I am just hoping the feral hogs do not get into our neck of the woods. I would not mind hunting them, just not in my backyard with all the trouble they cause.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2014 14:27:30 GMT -5
KENTUCKY HAS APPROXIMATELY 100-110 TAGS THEY PUT IN A LOTTERY DRAWING AND LAST YEAR HAD 45000 APPLICATIONS FOR THE TAGS.EVEN THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO PUT IN FOR THEM AS WELL.BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW A LOT OF THE TV HUNTING PROGRAM HOSTS ARE ABLE TO GET TAGS YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR THE ELK TAGS IN KENTUCKY.THE DRAWING IS AT THE END OF APRIL AND THET POST THEM IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY.IT COST TEN DOLLARE TO PLACE AN APPLICATION.
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Post by rileydog on Apr 6, 2014 21:09:32 GMT -5
Just so happens I'm from knott co. Ky. I still have land and plenty of family in knott co. Most people their are poor dirt farmers that rely on their crops to get them through the winter . Most people their hate elk . They do a tremendous amount of damage . They destroy crops , trees , cars , and headstones in cemeteries . Most people will let you hunt their land if you don't call them Clyde or a drunk. Their is a lot of state land also. If you draw a tag the state will help you get a place to hunt. If your lucky enough to get a tag and can't get a place to hunt I can get you one free of charge . Most hillbillies are great people just proud. Good luck. Sam
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Post by explorer on Jan 30, 2019 21:03:46 GMT -5
Just so happens I'm from knott co. Ky. I still have land and plenty of family in knott co. Most people their are poor dirt farmers that rely on their crops to get them through the winter . Most people their hate elk . They do a tremendous amount of damage . They destroy crops , trees , cars , and headstones in cemeteries . Most people will let you hunt their land if you don't call them Clyde or a drunk. Their is a lot of state land also. If you draw a tag the state will help you get a place to hunt. If your lucky enough to get a tag and can't get a place to hunt I can get you one free of charge . Most hillbillies are great people just proud. Good luck. Sam |
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Post by explorer on Jan 30, 2019 21:18:31 GMT -5
Hi rileydog.This is Explorer and im from Ohio and have put in for the 2019 Elk Lottery. My girlfriends Dad owns land down in Western Kentucky and i have hunted there and have loved it. If i do get drawn or do get drawn in the future i would like your help and getting a place to hunt Dear Sir! I will respect the land and what ever request that the land owners would have for me to hunt on their property. Thanks for your help very much.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 9:42:36 GMT -5
From In. and have put in for the kentucky elk hunt for the past 9 years and no luck.I saw where this year that kentucky will have just a little over 500 tags for drawing.And will over 35000 application going in I am not going to put in any more.And their tag is close to $700.00 if you are lucky to hit.My brother and I are going to do a diy elk hunt in Utah and the tag is $468.00.Totalcost will be under $1000.00 for EVERYTHING.Going to go in Oct of this coming year.
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Post by biged57 on Jan 31, 2019 21:14:29 GMT -5
Guys i live In Floyd county ky been putting in sense the get go never been drawed put have had friends get drawed killed some nice bulls most of the best places are all tied up in leases by guides believe me the open areas are hard to get it done the odds of getting drawed for bow hunting a cow or bull is a lot better I hate them have hade several big bulls about shake me out of a tree stand I had in a small pine and I do mean big ass bulls and ass far as the tv guys getting tags they even buy a commissioners tag or buy a land owner tag don’t re call just how land you have to own I know several big coal companies get them
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Post by bluedog on Feb 6, 2019 20:36:42 GMT -5
I live in VA and have drawn TWO KY Elk tags, an archery Bull tag and a late season rifle Cow tag. I apply every year, it is a 'no-brainer' for me considering the value compared to western Elk tags/hunts and it is only a 5 hour drive for me.
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