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Post by KerryB on Jan 22, 2009 20:05:02 GMT -5
I looked through a Leupold green ring scope the other day at a Dick's Sporting Goods here in Southern Illinois and i thought the price was pretty good till i looked through the scope. The view was hazy and the resolution just wasn't there. Not a bargain at all! These particular scopes don't live up to the Leupold reputation, but i guess they are trying to pick up some of the low end market?  ? |
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jan 23, 2009 20:16:16 GMT -5
I am wishing I would have taken it outside before I gought it.. Well ya live and ya learn. I am thinking about returning it and looking REAL hard at the golden ring series..in the 15X30 power ..It is about the samr money. I have a pair of 8X Swarovskis and the quality of the glass is great and I use them at the rangs..So my line of thinking is that 30 power with good glass will be better than 60 power with not so good glass...And that I will be able to see bullet hole's out to 200 plus yds.. What Yall think? Drop
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Post by KerryB on Jan 23, 2009 22:48:46 GMT -5
I am wishing I would have taken it outside before I gought it.. Well ya live and ya learn. I am thinking about returning it and looking REAL hard at the golden ring series..in the 15X30 power ..It is about the samr money. I have a pair of 8X Swarovskis and the quality of the glass is great and I use them at the rangs..So my line of thinking is that 30 power with good glass will be better than 60 power with not so good glass...And that I will be able to see bullet hole's out to 200 plus yds.. What Yall think? Drop My experience is that the higher you go with power (60X), the better the quality of the optics must be or you just end up with a fuzzy, dark, unuseable image. Seeing .40-.45 bullet holes at 200yds is not asking too much of even a cheaper scope unless you have some mirage and with heavy mirage even good glass will have problems. |
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jan 24, 2009 9:16:35 GMT -5
I aggree. I will be using it for .22cal up through .50 cal. My range goes out to 200yds but i intend to find a place where I can setup out to 250 to check.. Livin and Learnin.. The hard way this time. Drop
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Post by Savage Shooter on Jan 24, 2009 10:11:27 GMT -5
The Celestron (Non ED) will serve any and all range needs for range work.
I have a ED model that I use now (son took my Non ED).
I can not tell any difference on the range, the ED model with a window mount kit is what I use for hunting. It is a touch clearer for long range hunting conditions, but only slightly.
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Post by craigf on Jan 24, 2009 11:24:26 GMT -5
The Celestron (Non ED) will serve any and all range needs for range work. I have a ED model that I use now (son took my Non ED). I can not tell any difference on the range, the ED model with a window mount kit is what I use for hunting. It is a touch clearer for long range hunting conditions, but only slightly. Savage Shooter, which ones do you and your son have? Is there any color differences with the ED? What else do you think of them? Celestron is what I am thinking of getting, but I have never been able to look through one. |
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Post by mshm99 on Jan 24, 2009 11:45:27 GMT -5
The lesson here is ,as a general rule , you get what you pay for. I believe there are some bargains out there,they are the exception,not the rule. For sure, you want to take it for a test drive . One product that has impressed me recently is the Leupold Yosemite binoculars. Lotta bang for the buck.
mshm
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Post by Savage Shooter on Jan 24, 2009 20:13:53 GMT -5
The Celestron (Non ED) will serve any and all range needs for range work. I have a ED model that I use now (son took my Non ED). I can not tell any difference on the range, the ED model with a window mount kit is what I use for hunting. It is a touch clearer for long range hunting conditions, but only slightly. Savage Shooter, which ones do you and your son have? Is there any color differences with the ED? What else do you think of them? Celestron is what I am thinking of getting, but I have never been able to look through one. Ultima 65 Straight: www.celestron.com/c3/product.php?CatID=30&ProdID=198Ultima 80ED Angled: www.celestron.com/c3/product.php?CatID=30&ProdID=201I can "find" what I am looking for quicker with the straight. The angled is nice standing over a bench but forces me to stand at every shot. Our concrete shooting benches are armpit high when sitting, this makes it hard to get the angled low enough to see thru without standing each time. No doubt the ED is bit clearer and more color clarity, but not as much as the cost difference. (My old eyes do not see any major color difference). If I where buying a do all spotting scope that I could use and not panic too bad when it gets trashed, knocked off the bench, slide down the side of a rocky hill, dropped etc. it would be the Ultima 80 (Non ED) straight model, IMO. |
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Post by jims on Jan 24, 2009 20:42:01 GMT -5
To SavageShooter: You are correct about being concerned about spotting scope damage. My uncle had a brand new Leupold scope that he knocked off the bench, I caught it before it hit the concrete below. They always seem to get hit or bumped around.
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Post by mshm99 on Jan 24, 2009 21:13:47 GMT -5
The 45 degree angles are not a problem on the bench as the entire scope can be rotated in the mount. I built an overhead mount. I just rotate the scope down and look slightly up and see the target.
mshm
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Post by joe21a on Jan 25, 2009 10:38:59 GMT -5
I have a Burris compact 20X50. Clear, light weight ,work just fine and most of all it did not cost an arm and a couple legs. But often I just use my scope (Burris) set on 9 power as most of the time I am shooting at 100yd.
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Post by joe21a on Jan 25, 2009 11:24:44 GMT -5
Also have one of the (X-Mass gift) Winchester ones(made in China) If I remember correctly it is a 10X120 X90. It worked well and was quite clear but a little big to carry hunting. The 20 power Burris is much more useful and I use a 20 power transit very often so my eyes are used to the picture I get.
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Post by jims on Jan 25, 2009 12:26:33 GMT -5
I have a Tasco, not happy with it even for the little money spent. Later on a close out I got a Weaver Classic, 20x50, better but not near top of the line.
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jan 25, 2009 14:26:36 GMT -5
I was thinking about just going ahead and upgrading to the Leupold 12x40x60 compact spotting scope... But that rascal just took a jump from 799 up to 999.... I should have done more research before I dropped the dollars and left. But I am learning more every day about them. I dint just want to buy a spotting scope.. I want something that is still valuable,usable,and serviceable, When I hand it over to the next generation. So I dint think I am going to get that with a "Green Ring" product. I have read some very good reviews about the Cabelas Big Sky brand. And that they are very good optics. I intend to look at them this weekend.. But I wonder what the Cabelas optics warranty is. Drop
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Post by sagittarius on Jan 25, 2009 17:12:26 GMT -5
I have a Kowa TSN 77mm with 20X-60X zoom lens somewhere that I bought in 89' for $550.00 from Eagle Optics. Wind caught it in that same year; it fell and damaged the sunshade. Paid $100.00 to have the sunshade replaced.  The next year, the same d**n thing happened again.  I put the scope in the closet and have never used it since. Started to shoot it with my .44 mag the second time it happened  but put it back in its case and returned home disgusted with myself.  Don't even know where it's at right now and don't care. I will never waste money on a spotting scope again. d**n, I hate the wind ! |
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Feb 1, 2009 12:13:43 GMT -5
Well I pulled the trigger yesterday. Went up to Cabelas and returned the Seqouia Green ring scope. And bought the Leupold Golden Ring 12x40x60 scope. I took it outside and compared it to the Cabelas Big Sky 20x60x66. I have looked through the Burris already,Some Nikon also..So far all that I have looked through Was like looking through a large drinking straw and critical eye-relief. When I looked through the Leupold I was impressed with the fact that it was like looking through a regular rifle scope..and 33mm of eye relief. I could see considerably more detail with the Leupold at 40 than with the Big Sky at 60..And more clarity. I never in a million years thought I would be spending this kind of coin on a spotting scope. I think I may have terminal Leupold disease... It seems to keep growing in my gun cabinet. But I have never had any dissatisfaction ever with a Golden Ring Product. This afternoon I am taking my scope and range finder outside and peek at the neighborhood. Thanks all for the input. I will report in later with my result's Drop
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Feb 1, 2009 15:24:55 GMT -5
Just came inside and put my stuff away. At 212 yds I could read the "B-Truck "on the license plate of a truck down the street on a cloudy day. It was a little more readable at about 30 to 35 power . I think it was more due to shake than anything else. By the way those letter's are 1/2 inch tall...Ant the 3/8 bolts stuck out like a sore thumb. So I think when I get a better tri-pod than the one I used I will be allot happier. The tri-pod I used was a $30 tripod from the discount store...seemed like when I breathed it moved. I got one from Cabelas yesterday that is cheap one also..However I think it will be more stable on a shooting bench. It is kind of a neat little one since it has a window clamp built in it and it can be used either way. If I cant get a solid one I will build a base with a flat spade that stick's up flat then use the Cabelas window mount (metal) and fix a big enough base that I can lay a bag of shot in . Drop
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Feb 6, 2009 22:10:14 GMT -5
I returned the green ring and got the Gold ring...problem resolved. Took the Gold ring out to the tripod and was able to read 1/2 print from 212 yds...Should have followed my own advice to begin with... Drop
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but put it back in its case and returned home disgusted with myself. 