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Post by shoot2reload on Jan 25, 2009 8:48:23 GMT -5
I'm just now getting my feet wet with a new Savage. I know there are a lot of tried & true powders at this point. I'm curious about which non-book powders people felt comfortable trying first.
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Post by dougedwards on Jan 25, 2009 9:19:05 GMT -5
You could always start with 62 grains of Reloder7 and work up using 300 gr bullets. This powder was at one time a book recommended powder for the Savage 10ML.
Doug
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Post by sw on Jan 25, 2009 15:28:02 GMT -5
Some very popular loads are: (50 cal Sav barrel)
1) 58-60g VV-120/300g bullets
2) 14/61 NN-110/H-322/250g bullets
3)65g VV-120/250g bullets
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Post by fowlplay on Jan 25, 2009 15:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Jan 25, 2009 16:59:18 GMT -5
65 to 69 gr. of H-4198 with any of the 300 gr. bullets.
10 gr. of 5744 under 60 gr. of H-4198 with a 300 gr. Rem. hp will give you a solid 2460 fps load using a Harvestor black Crush Rib sabot. (a reliable cold weather load) The 5744 is easy to ignite and gives the slower H-4198 a kick-start!
Richard
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Post by hunter on Jan 25, 2009 17:13:19 GMT -5
Richard;
What kind of pressure and recoil is there with the 10 gr 5744/60 gr. load with the H-4198.
I have 4759, can I subsitute 10 gr. of 4759 for the 5744? I normally use 67-68gr. of 4198 with my hunting loads. Would a 10/58 gr. charge be comparable to 68 gr. of straight 4198.
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Post by mike3132 on Jan 25, 2009 18:31:15 GMT -5
AA 2015, H4198, IMR4198, Allient 10X...... there are many that work. Mike
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Post by Richard on Jan 25, 2009 19:23:38 GMT -5
Hunter.......I have substituted 4759 for 5744 and also, N-110. 4759 dropped my velocity from 2460 to right at 2390. N-110 dropped it to 2430. I would just guess that 10/58 would put you around 2400 fps. Understand that there are a lot of variables with these ML's. Your interpretation of a tight sabot and mine could be two totally different things. Your barrel might be slightly tighter or looser than mine. Lot#'s on powders cause different velocities. You really need to verify these things yourself with your rifle. The other day when Herman and I were shooting, he seemed to get low readings on his chronograph so he shot over mine and got 100 fps higher?
Richard
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Post by tar12 on Jan 25, 2009 19:46:28 GMT -5
I have found it common place to have a velocity difference amongst chronos.A 100-150 fps difference between mmp sabots and crush ribs as well,with the higher reading in favor of the crush ribs.
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Post by chuck41 on Jan 25, 2009 19:50:16 GMT -5
Anyone tried 3031?
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Post by KerryB on Jan 25, 2009 22:35:56 GMT -5
Chuck, 3031 is good for the heavier bullets. 350-500gr bullets with loads starting around the 72gr level and working up to around 80grs should yield velocities starting in the 2100fps range. As always start low and watch for pressure signs............such as a broken shoulder, spitting out teeth after each shot, etc!  ;D |
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Post by encoreguy on Jan 26, 2009 8:02:23 GMT -5
Personally, I would not mess with a duplex load since you are just starting out. I really don't think it is necessary. Try H4198, RL 7 or N120 (if you can find it), if you want to shoot 300 grain bullets. 4759 or N110 if you want to shoot 250 grain bullets. Don't know why you would need anything else. Trying different sabots with your bullets will be your other variable that will help you find the sweet spot. Decide which bullet you want to try and then buy some different sabots to try with it and work up a powder charge. Use one variable at a time, I see people on here who get frustrated because they are chasing things around. Jumping around and not sticking with one thing at a time and changing multiple things at once. Pick a powder that fits your bullet's weight, weigh out different charge weights, pick an appropriate sabot and shoot groups. When done start over perhaps with a different sabot.
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