Idea for resized bullets

[craigf]

I was thinking about DaveW's thoughts about resizing SSTs for shooting sabotless and why one bullet would ruin a 5 shot group. He, and others, thought that the jacket was separating from the lead core by springback. If this is the case would putting a cannelure groove fix this problem? Also, if this would help the jacket and core not seperate, would this help the 250 SST hold up better on shoulder shots? What do you think?

Here is a web site that sells these tools.

www.ch4d.com

[deadeye]

craigf-i cant answer your jacket/cannelure question's,but i can vouch for that ch4d tool as i have used one for years,for putting cannelures on its a great tool

[dond]

Corbin makes a knurling tool that turns out bullets exactly all the same dia.Might make it easier to get all your bullets to a more uniform dimension and eliminate that on flier.I don't know how to provide a link but if you go to their site they provide detailed directions on its use.

[Dave W]

Since the bullets come out of the die like an inverted lamp shade, smaller OD at the base than at the ogive area, the cannelure tool would be nice to put a uniform ring near the base of the bullet to aid with centering the bullet once it starts into the muzzle.

Smokeeter being our resident bulletsmith, have you or Al ever cut a sized bullet in half like you did with the factory bullets in this link?

dougva.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Savage&action=display&thread=11259

This would give a good idea if core separation occurs during sizing. Curious also how well your modified 300 XTP is shooting.

[Deleted]

dond, looks like a good tool for those who shoot without plastic, I think I might take a serious look myself if the 45 likes the 275 be....Bill

[bigmoose]

When Barnes repaced their X bullet with a bullet with 3 cannalure rings, I call them, first to ask about remaining X stock, the tech agent I spoke to said, there might be a problem using the new bullet with sabots, less gripping area. I have yet to try since I have a good supply of X bullets
AS for resizing jacketed bullets, Sping back remains a problem for me. I stick to all copper bullet that are easy to resize and bore size bullets like the Parker's a very accurate bullet
Good Luck

[smokeeter]

Jan 24, 2009 9:04:29 GMT -5 Dave W said:

Since the bullets come out of the die like an inverted lamp shade, smaller OD at the base than at the ogive area, the cannelure tool would be nice to put a uniform ring near the base of the bullet to aid with centering the bullet once it starts into the muzzle.

Smokeeter being our resident bulletsmith, have you or Al ever cut a sized bullet in half like you did with the factory bullets in this link?

dougva.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Savage&action=display&thread=11259

This would give a good idea if core separation occurs during sizing. Curious also how well your modified 300 XTP is shooting.

Dave the modified XTP mag and the nosler were resized and no evidence of core seperation.

[bigmoose]

Forget would I said, Smokeeter, and Edge are the Grand Master's of resizing

[Dave W]

Thanks Paul, that eliminates a variable.

[craigf]

Jan 24, 2009 9:45:57 GMT -5 smokeeter said:

Jan 24, 2009 9:04:29 GMT -5 Dave W said:

Since the bullets come out of the die like an inverted lamp shade, smaller OD at the base than at the ogive area, the cannelure tool would be nice to put a uniform ring near the base of the bullet to aid with centering the bullet once it starts into the muzzle.

Smokeeter being our resident bulletsmith, have you or Al ever cut a sized bullet in half like you did with the factory bullets in this link?

dougva.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Savage&action=display&thread=11259

This would give a good idea if core separation occurs during sizing. Curious also how well your modified 300 XTP is shooting.

Dave the modified XTP mag and the nosler were resized and no evidence of core seperation.

Smokeeater, have you ever cut open a bullet that was sized with a Lee sizer? I remember you saying that your sizers being 2 inches in diameter eliminated springback problems.

[smokeeter]

Craig, I haven't cut open a bullet resized with a Lee type die, but I do know that they are more susceptible to springback

[craigf]

Since this is what bullet makers do to strengthen their bullets, I wonder if it would help the 250 SST or 300 Remington hold up better. It may be able to give a Barnes Original enough strength to get through a shoulder bone. ;D

[bigmoose]

craigf,

If you want to punch thut big bones, the Barnes X bullet, in 300 and 350, is the bullets for you, in my tests thet had 100% weight retention.

[tar12]

The BO needs help? If anything it need to be 'softened up a tad..

[Al]

Jan 24, 2009 9:04:29 GMT -5 Dave W said:

Since the bullets come out of the die like an inverted lamp shade, smaller OD at the base than at the ogive area, the cannelure tool would be nice to put a uniform ring near the base of the bullet to aid with centering the bullet once it starts into the muzzle.

Smokeeter being our resident bulletsmith, have you or Al ever cut a sized bullet in half like you did with the factory bullets in this link?

dougva.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Savage&action=display&thread=11259

This would give a good idea if core separation occurs during sizing. Curious also how well your modified 300 XTP is shooting.

I have some of Smokes .458's he sized down to .452 for sabots, I'll whittle one in half tomorrow morning and see if there is anything loose.

So far I have seen no problems with the XTP mags I've sized and cut up (3 so far), but I only need to take them down about .001 for my gun and springback is only a couple of tenths.