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Post by ET on Jul 10, 2019 21:05:14 GMT -5
After my absence I’ve been trying to catch up with what’s happening today with SML by reviewing some previous posts and looking over PT traces. Boy the advancements are very impressive and look forward to reading more future results. Even though I’m still in the era of when SML was starting to develop I don’t feel being left behind but still enjoy following further developments. For me there is still some research I hope to eventually explore more in-depth. For now, my Savage provides everything I need.
During my journey with SML I’ve enjoyed numerous projects for accessories as I’m a tinker at heart. One thing I have missed is exposure to special people (brotherhood) here. Some of those people have passed on but not forgotten for their many contributions. My hope here is that this board continues with past traditions making it a place a person feels welcomed and wants to visit.
The one thing I have noticed is a subtle division that now exists with another Board. The other board appears to cater more to advanced smokeless muzzle loading. Not saying anything negative here but noting an observation. This may even be a good thing branching out for different or high-end shooters specific needs. No disrespect to the other board but I don’t feel I belong there or would make any meaningful contribution.
As for me I’m quite comfortable here, I have a history here and plan to continue so. Just felt something I needed to express.
Ed
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Post by dannoboone on Jul 11, 2019 11:50:41 GMT -5
Ed, you've been a sort of life support for the board the last
couple of months, especially with your very interesting
projects. Summer is a pretty slow time of the year for the
board. Many of us do not shoot during the hot summer months
when we know the loads we shoot will not shoot the same when
it's cold, so there is very little to offer and threads slow
to a crawl.
I miss the excitement of the days just after the 10MLII came
out. Considered Rick Bibby the godfather of the board and
looked for his input each and every day. Those were some
great times.
Many of us have gone on to the .45 conversions, some even to
the .40's, but there should ALWAYS be room for those using the
.50's!
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Post by ET on Jul 11, 2019 14:21:06 GMT -5
Ed, you've been a sort of life support for the board the last couple of months, especially with your very interesting projects. Summer is a pretty slow time of the year for the board. Many of us do not shoot during the hot summer months when we know the loads we shoot will not shoot the same when it's cold, so there is very little to offer and threads slow to a crawl. I miss the excitement of the days just after the 10MLII came out. Considered Rick Bibby the godfather of the board and looked for his input each and every day. Those were some great times. Many of us have gone on to the .45 conversions, some even to the .40's, but there should ALWAYS be room for those using the .50's! Thank you for those kind words but don't feel I have been that much an influence. Also need to say that my projects were meant as much for me as for sharing ideas. But what made my knurling project great instead of just good was your contribution of motorizing it. My aging hands say "Thank you". As for the load resistance gauge I have plans to monitor certain aspects related to SML. Yes part of me also misses the past days of exploring SML and the Godfather who originally introduced new concepts. But others say like edge introducing the recessed plug and SW who gave a way of reducing blowback by screwing the barrel in a little deeper. In my case I gave my barrel an additional revolution and shaved the BP at primer input stage, just enough for bolt closure. No issues for blowback under 40K pressure. Don't know about how far over 40K and won't be testing this theory. Yes many have moved on to other calibers and I think that's great they are following their desires for the muzzle loader they want and meets their needs. The 50 is the origin of todays SML and a lot of the same principles still apply. So far as I'm gathering components to try and get my PT unit running again at a reasonable cost all is coming slowly together. Got the gauges today and boy are they small. I had to check one with my ohm meter to ensure the 350 ohm resistance was there. Reading of 349 obtained and that's close enough chuckle. Now waiting for the connectors. I'm already looking at the feasibility of installing the gauge on the underside of the barrel after soldering the connector to it for some extra protection. The fun part will be the soldering operation. I have a head set magnifier to assist but have to support my hands someway to minimize minor shaking. Just another challenge for continuing with SML, chuckle. Ed |
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Post by reloader22 on Jul 11, 2019 19:30:44 GMT -5
I too have only had the MLII as my smokeless ML. My hunting might let me take a semi-steady 200 yd shot. That's possible with book loads and also even reduced loads. These loads, both book and reduced, still produce enormous energy, penetration and killing power. 4-5 inch groups at 200 yds are fairly easy for me with almost any loads. That's only 2 - 2 1/2" from point of desired impact. Deer MOA.
Love the innovation though. Amazing when you see the results from various shoots under laboratory conditions. However, I would take my MLII over any custom gun for normal hunting for deer.
The days of break thru stuff is over. How can you top 4,000 fps with 400 gr bullets shooting MOA at 500 yds? The initial 4-5 years were priceless with the pioneers making huge strides. I have noticed that more and more of original .50 cal stuff is being discussed. Maybe the many of us who decided we had nirvana 10 years ago just slipped away as the next generation of pioneers took over with the sub cals and sabotless. Only to emerge as the elders who are still killing a lot of deer way more effectively than the BP in-liners and flinters.
It's all good and so are all the people in this game.
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Post by ET on Jul 11, 2019 21:00:24 GMT -5
Reloader22
Thanks for your encouraging response.
I totally agree with your last sentence.
Most of the "break through stuff" has been discovered but there may be a gem or two still hidden waiting to be discovered. If not the adventure of the treasure hunt will be worth it. Have a great day.
Ed
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Post by jims on Jul 12, 2019 6:38:25 GMT -5
I realize that the new SMLs are capable of amazing things but I have said it before, where I hunt a stock .50 Savage could do all I need. They made thousands of them and I am sure many are still being used.
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Post by ET on Jul 12, 2019 13:14:51 GMT -5
I realize that the new SMLs are capable of amazing things but I have said it before, where I hunt a stock .50 Savage could do all I need. They made thousands of them and I am sure many are still being used. I have no doubt there are many 50-SML out there being used. And I imagine there are many who found 4759 as a good powder and now scratching their heads of what to go to with 4759 discontinuation. Also not knowing what can be achieved with what they have that this board could provide from many who are experienced. It has been one heck of a journey with the 50 and the journey is not over yet for me. Ed |
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Post by superkirby on Jul 15, 2019 9:45:33 GMT -5
I very much agree. I miss the "old" Doug's from a few years ago. There was a little more going on and the board was much busier place. I'm still not sure why but somehow it turned into a big competition and for whatever reason people decided to pick sides. I stopped coming to the board for quite awhile because it was just irritating. Aside from being real slow now the board is better in that everyone at least gets along nicely and the info shared is good. About once a month I go check out the "new" board and then I remember why I haven't been there for a month. The egos are big And the guns are generally going in a direction I have no interest in.
For whatever reason I tend to have an interest in the old more than the new. Yes, I have a 1-20 Brux for my Encore and I love it. But I also think I would rather enjoy going back to a .50. Beck if it wasn't for farm, family and work I would go back to shooting BP subs. I just don't have time to clean and shoot the same day.
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Post by ET on Jul 15, 2019 10:36:02 GMT -5
Superkirby
Yes I can see that this board has taken a beating. The Board may possible never fully recover but the amount of recovery will be based on the contributions of the remaining members with courtesy, helpfulness and respect such as the Old Board possessed. Then it's up to the Moderators to deal with disruptions affecting aforementioned quality. I have no problem when temporary suspensions are used as warnings and other chances are given. Then if purging is necessary to further protect this board I support these actions. After recovery from my own trying personal trials I felt an urge to return here because of what it once represented. Now it's up to us members to rebuild this board and the Moderators to protect it. They have my support for any necessary actions required.
Ed
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