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Post by edge on Jan 18, 2019 12:36:39 GMT -5
Let me get this straight edge , if i disagree with you i'm a troll, a moron, stupid or whatever derogatory name you can come up with ? No, when you constantly refuse to answer questions, when you ask questions, and get a reply you try to change the subject. When I prove that the dems voted for 25 billion for the wall, by actually showing how they voted, and then try to change the question, then yes you would be a Troll! edge.
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Post by aldeerhunter on Jan 18, 2019 12:44:14 GMT -5
Edie has an obvious problem comprehending. You can not reason with anyone that can not read and understand. Wasted effort for sure.
Like many Trump supporters, he mixes half truths with hyperbole and asserts them as truths. If you point out his misstatements, rather than admit he is wrong, he calls you a “troll”. What a joke.
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Post by edge on Jan 18, 2019 15:06:14 GMT -5
Edie has an obvious problem comprehending. You can not reason with anyone that can not read and understand. Wasted effort for sure. Like many Trump supporters, he mixes half truths with hyperbole and asserts them as truths. If you point out his misstatements, rather than admit he is wrong, he calls you a “troll”. What a joke. You asked for proof that the Democrats voted for wall funding, and I showed you the actual voting record! Then you try to change the question to a vote on appropriations. You and gunny are always changing the goalpost. gunny asks about the Wall, gets his answer, so then he switches to fiscal responsibility of Republicans! edge.
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Post by gunny on Jan 18, 2019 18:07:35 GMT -5
Edge im beginning to think the fake crisis at the border is nothing more than another of trumps ploys to divert attention away from other issue,s. The fact is for the last 7 years people over staying their visa ,accounts for more than what cross the border ! As far as drugs the majority are coming in through legal ports of entry Philadelphia comes to mind recently {fentanyl} The opioid crises starts right here in our own country by legally produced {oxycontin} Trump,s desperation is apparent . The impending impeachment loom,s daily . If Buzzfeed news about Trump is substantiated ,and i believe it will be . Mr trump is in big time trouble ! Trump directed Cohen to lie before congress! The trump Tower deal in Moscow may well be the smoking gun. Trumps numbers continue to sink, but what i would like to know is what lie would trump have to tell before before his base starts to fall away??
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Post by edge on Jan 18, 2019 20:30:00 GMT -5
RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!
Funny, everytime something bad hits the news about Comey, the FBI, the FISA warrants, something leaks from Mueller, or they add BS to charging documents to attack Trump.
gunny, will you try to answer one question and please stay on subject for once?
People here overstaying their Visas have been approved to come into this Country, maybe they are here too long, but they have been vetted.
Do we know who is crossing the Border, have their backgrounds been checked, are they drug dealers, terrorists, murderers, or rapists? DO WE KNOW???
Please answer that specifically!
edge.
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Post by gunny on Jan 18, 2019 21:17:35 GMT -5
Edge do you know how many drug dealers, terrorist, murderers and rapist are home grown? When a crime is committed by a person that may have grown up with you lets say , murder . Is it still not the same crime whether the person grew up in Mexico or you knew the guy your whole life ? Murder is murder. The fact is Americans commit more crimes against each other . You demand an answer about DO WE KNOW?? Well i can tell we know 12 were apprehended on the southern border and that 41 were apprehended on the northern border ! That tells me someone is doing there job ! Trump still has not spent all the money appropriated previously for border security. Also they are building 60 to 70 miles per year also repairing existing wall/fence . If there were truly a crises at the border why is trump waiting to do anything? If this a national emergency how come trump is not taking action ?
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Post by edge on Jan 18, 2019 21:38:58 GMT -5
If this a national emergency how come trump is not taking action ? I suspect he will declare an emergency! snip.. . If Buzzfeed news about Trump is substantiated ,and i believe it will be . ... FAKE NEWS according to Mueller. The scumbag let this story go through all the news cycles before coming out and saying it is not true...an honest person would have corrected the record immediately! Wonder how much the "News" organizations will make it clear that it was fake...right! edge.
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Post by gunny on Jan 18, 2019 23:35:33 GMT -5
This story is not over yet in regards to the russian collusion ! Either there is an emergency or there is not! If and when he chooses to do something at the border who will carry it out ? Seeing that no one is getting a paycheck!! You can,t have it both ways. I have one question that i'm hoping you will address. What lie would Donald J Trump have to tell before people stop supporting him ?
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Post by edge on Jan 19, 2019 7:12:32 GMT -5
gunny, you seem to have missed the obvious!
If Trump declares an emergency, then the partial shutdown would end too, once the wall finds funding then so will the the balance of the Government...unless the Democrats won't pass a budget, or try to add some new condition.
If Trump stops working on Border Security/ Immigration would be my "read my lips, no new taxes".
edge.
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Post by edge on Jan 19, 2019 13:59:58 GMT -5
I wonder what “does not explocitlly appropriate” and “subject to annual approval of Congress” means in your world? Got it? It means you use money that is appropriated in the department doing the work! If you use Homeland Security, then money for the Wall comes out of their budget. It means that each year Congress needs to re-authorize the project. WHAT DO YOU THINK IT MEANS, if you think that everything in the budget gets specific money, you would be wrong? There are 12 "Budgets" that get funded for the year, unless there is something that Congress puts in that says you can't use the money for then they can, as long as it is authorized! Money specifically appropriated for salaries, can't be used for hardware, ETC. Once something is authorized, then if the Executive Branch finds money, they can do it, if they run out of money, then that part of the Government shuts down...except for those things deemed "essential". edge.
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Post by edge on Jan 19, 2019 14:11:00 GMT -5
By the way, if Walls don't work, then why does Pelosi keep saying they are immoral?
Since they don't work, and they don't do anything, please explain why could be immoral?
edge.
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Post by hatchetjack1 on Jan 19, 2019 19:06:36 GMT -5
The Vatican is surrounded by a wall. The Obama's just had a wall built around their house in DC. The Clintons have walls and fences around their estates. Nancy has walls and fences around hers as well. Interesting.
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Post by gunny on Jan 20, 2019 13:02:14 GMT -5
Whats your point ? They already have barriers /fences etc! The Democrats are not calling for open borders like you would have everyone believe!
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Post by dannoboone on Jan 20, 2019 13:06:41 GMT -5
By the way, if Walls don't work, then why does Pelosi keep saying they are immoral? Since they don't work, and they don't do anything, please explain why could be immoral? edge. I like what Jim Jordan had to say about Peloosi's double standard hypocracy concerning the wall. If the wall is immoral to her, why doesn't she instoduce legislation to have the wall torn down on Kalifornia's southern border?
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Post by dannoboone on Jan 20, 2019 13:08:44 GMT -5
The Vatican is surrounded by a wall. The Obama's just had a wall built around their house in DC. The Clintons have walls and fences around their estates. Nancy has walls and fences around hers as well. Interesting. Not to mention the walls around the House and Senate buildings. Is it immoral that they know who gets through??
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Post by edge on Jan 20, 2019 13:12:52 GMT -5
Not to mention the walls around the House and Senate buildings. Is it immoral that they know who gets through?? The problem is they keep letting the criminals out when Congress adjourns
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