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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 24, 2009 16:44:36 GMT -5
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Post by ozark on Jan 24, 2009 17:27:05 GMT -5
The .223, 22.250, .222, .243 and simular small bore rifles are generally considered more accurate than the large calibers working up from the 270 on into the Magnums. I personally think that accuracy is directly related to recoil and that you will not find a varmint rifle more accurate than the weak recoiling rimfires. You can decreas felt recoil with a variety of gadgets and cushioning materials but it is still going to recoil and cause some inaccuracy IMO. It has been said that you can have lever action or accuracy but never both. I think it can be said that you can have extreme accuracy with heavy recoiling cartridges but not in a hunting weight rifle. Something to think about whether I am correct or mistaken as is often the case. Ozark
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Post by sw on Jan 25, 2009 15:43:14 GMT -5
The .223, 22.250, .222, .243 and simular small bore rifles are generally considered more accurate than the large calibers working up from the 270 on into the Magnums. Ben, I think most of us who shoot a lot can shoot the lower recoiling rifles more accurately than we can shoot a higher recoiling rifle. That doesn't mean the higher power rifle is less accurate; rather, that we can shoot it more accurately. I tend to think that rifles in calibers 17-50 can shoot with equal, or near, accuracy - just not us shooting them. Richard/Kerry, others may add/correct here.
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Post by bigmoose on Jan 25, 2009 16:17:13 GMT -5
Steve, you are right on the money, the 375 H&H is a super accurate round, capable of shooting 1/2 groups, in a mchine rest, but how many shooters can shoot 1" groups with it. As for big thumpers 3 to 4 inch groups is good shooting.
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Post by ozark on Jan 25, 2009 16:34:23 GMT -5
You are correct. I was thinking along the lines of accuracy that involved the rifle, the ammunition and the shooter. A super accurate hunting rifle that cannot be used well with the hunter is the root cause of the popularity of smaller calibers with less recoil. I misspoke by using the term accuracy somewhat out of order. Sorry, Ben
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Post by sw on Jan 25, 2009 18:29:03 GMT -5
I misspoke by using the term accuracy somewhat out of order. Sorry, Ben You are forgiven, THIS TIME; but BE CAREFUL from here on out!!!
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Post by ozark on Jan 25, 2009 18:35:26 GMT -5
Thanks SW. Being careless are memories of my youth. Being careful is now a necessity.
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Post by chuck41 on Jan 25, 2009 18:49:41 GMT -5
First loads with the Savage were 250 and 300gr standard loads with about 42gr of 4759. At the range I found the 300gr too much for me. A couple days after that range trip my shoulder was very sore. After I added a recoil pad they were not too bad, but not fun either, at least not on the range.
The 250 gr bullets were OK. However, I did also find that the recoil would move my elbow across the concrete shooting bench removing skin with either load.
I went to 200gr bullets and the fun improved significantly. I have now changed to a 40cal barrel and shoot 200gr at 2300 to 2800 very comfortably.
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