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Post by whyohe on Jan 20, 2009 18:18:04 GMT -5
ok i know a post on the old board was similar but im curious as to which you prefer in a conseal carry weapon and why.
i have a tarus PT101 in 40 S&W. its a fine shooting gun but a bit large and heavy to conseal. i like the looks of the titanium series and ive heard they are nice to carry and the hamerless come out with out snagging on things in your pocket. down fall usually only 5 to 6 shots compared to a semi. but they are pricey.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 20, 2009 18:31:01 GMT -5
6 shots from a Ruger GP100 .357 mag 4 inch barrel ought to be enough. And it's easy to hit with out to 50 yds.
To each his own, I like a revolver. Around here, summer is the only season where concealability is somewhat of an issue.
.38 reloads are pleasant and affordable to shoot in big quantities. The Rockchucker is always hungry and there is plenty of feed around here.
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Post by KerryB on Jan 20, 2009 18:40:58 GMT -5
I figure 5-6 shots from a revolver should slow down a bad guy. If i can't do any good with that many shots, then i need to head to the range a little more often. I have never really trusted a semi-auto to go bang every time as i have had too many jams over the years with too many different brands and models. Can't remember my revolvers ever jamming!  |
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Post by dans on Jan 20, 2009 19:00:44 GMT -5
Colt 1911 45 auto. With proper tuning and ammo is very reliable. You can carry hammer back and locked. Try that with a wheel gun.
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Post by KerryB on Jan 20, 2009 21:02:51 GMT -5
Colt 1911 45 auto. With proper tuning and ammo is very reliable. Try that with a wheel gun. Yea, but with no tuning and any ammo, my revolver is very reliable! Try that with a semi-auto. Just messing with you! I've owned several 1911A1's over the years and have loved them all. My brother-in-law was wanting a semi-auto the other day and called me to ask my opinion. Yup, i told him to get a trusty ol 1911! Any pistol that has been around as long as the 1911 and is still such an incredibly popular model is absolutely a legend in it's own time. |
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Post by jims on Jan 20, 2009 21:34:29 GMT -5
I like the semi-autos only because I feel they conceal somewhat better. That said I have had a number of failures with the same ejecting etc. over the years. For drop dead reliability I have had much better success with a revolver.
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Post by KerryB on Jan 21, 2009 8:58:20 GMT -5
Some of those small frame, short barrel, S&W's with the scandium frame and titanium cylinders are super light weight, small, and if you buy a revolver with a shrouded hammer, they slide right in and out of a pocket without snags. You just don't get as many shots with the revolver as a semi-auto, but that is where target practice comes in handy! Don't miss with the first 6 shots! |
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Post by ricksalisbury01 on Jan 22, 2009 15:31:33 GMT -5
A wheel gun in coat pocket as cloth will not dissable the gun from a follow up shot, and a semi in the holster for capacity. Both have their place in a ccw world. If I could only chose one, the revolver would win secondary to reliability. Hard to beat 5 shots from a 357 at distances that would not send the victim to jail for defending theirself.
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Post by whyohe on Jan 22, 2009 16:31:15 GMT -5
this is very interesting. almost 50/50. i know some have problems with the small frame semi's with them not loading hollow points correctly and just some poor performace all around. but i have heard some good things about the KEL-TEC. now i have to admit i have big hands and a wheel gun does fit me better even in a small frame titanium than a small frame semi. so that is also another reason i prefer a wheel gun.
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Post by thelefthand on Jan 26, 2009 19:20:57 GMT -5
I like the semi auto. I don't like the idea of having a gap between my chamber and my barrel. Very in efficient design IMHO. The autos have a slimmer profile that makes them more comfortable to carry, and can help with concealment. I've never trusted a lot of the small frame auto's, but there are some that have proven themselves over time such as the Kahr, and the smaller Glocks. I've got a snub nose .357, and the muzzle velocity is less than a 9mm, so I see no power advantage for it over a 9mm, and I hate the 9. My preference is a 1911 though. I don't like to trust my life to anything smaller than a 40 cal. Besides, when the special forces guys go play in the sand, they take 45s, and that's enough for me right there  Just my 2 bits, Mark |
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Post by deadeye on Jan 27, 2009 23:58:09 GMT -5
i like both & i'd say whichever you carry,practice often & let it be your soulmate
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Post by indianabuck on Jan 29, 2009 20:59:35 GMT -5
I prefer semi - I currently carry a Para-Ordnance LDA - The profile is the main reason - That and all my revolvers have long barrels.
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Post by savagebrother on Jan 30, 2009 23:19:04 GMT -5
mm i cary a springfield armory xd-45 tactical and i have great faith it will go bang if i need it too, and i havent found any ammo it wont readily digest without problems.
sb
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Post by tcmech on Jan 31, 2009 21:31:50 GMT -5
I would not hesitate to carry a 38 or 357 snubbie revolver if I owned one. Since I don't I carry a glock 36, not much of a capacity advantage over the revolver (7 vs 5-6) but it is flat and easy to conceal.
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Post by joe21a on Feb 5, 2009 9:37:05 GMT -5
I like to shoot the semi auto, but when I do carry it is the .357 wheel gun. Reliable and accurate
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Post by ozark on Feb 5, 2009 21:09:29 GMT -5
Revolver for me. I can't imagine a shootout requiring more than five or six shots.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Feb 5, 2009 21:21:38 GMT -5
Amen to Ozark and Joa21a!
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Post by rossman40 on Feb 6, 2009 0:26:04 GMT -5
As far as a pocket pistol the hammerless J frame is tough to beat. For slinging lead the auto is far more suited.
Isn't what Clint Smith says, "if I knew I was going to be in a pistol fight I would have brought my rifle" or something like that.
Like that movie Water Hole #3 with James Coburn. Coburn is sitting in the saloon and this gunslinger is calling him out for traditional gunfght. Coburn finally gets up walks out the door of the saloon and you see the gunslinger standing at the end of the street like over 100yds. Coburn walks over to his horse and pulls out his Winchester, braces on the saddle and drops him.
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Post by joe21a on Feb 6, 2009 9:33:30 GMT -5
That would be my idea of a shoot out. as much in my favor as possible.
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Post by jims on Feb 6, 2009 12:22:04 GMT -5
Ruger has a new .38 revolver out that was featured in the recent Guns&Ammo that looks like it might be a ccw type.
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Post by whyohe on Feb 6, 2009 13:57:40 GMT -5
isnt ruger and federal the 2 that worked together to make the 327 magnum? i beleave this is a design specifically for CCW and is a revolver.
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Post by thelefthand on Feb 6, 2009 17:41:49 GMT -5
Revolver for me. I can't imagine a shootout requiring more than five or six shots. I can't imagine a shoot out at all, but if I could, I can imagine having more than one opponent. Since it's a shoot out, they must be armed, in which case I want as much ammo as possible. Of course if I really wanted to be "prepaired", I'd bring a 12ga pump and a 45 carbine, and my Kimber, and a lot of friends with the same. But since life's a comprimise, I at least want more than 6 shots, and a quick reload Besides, if lead starts flying, I need to find some cover. Easier to return fire if I'm not bleeding quite so much.... Chance favors the prepaired mind.... Just my 2 bits, Mark |
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Post by bloodtrailer on Feb 16, 2009 16:02:21 GMT -5
If you practice clearing malfunctions( stove piping ,double feeding etc....cuased by poor grip, bad mag. spring) and are ready to clear them, then an auto pistol is best. But if you don't practice clearing malfunctions and want easy and peace of mind K.I.S.S., a revolver is hard to beat, very little can go wrong(until you run out of bullets, you must practice tactical reloading, cover and speed loaders)Pros carry auto pistols and practice practice practice remember if you can't clear a malfunction you have a very short club!  Carried guns for 25yrs + on duty SW 66 reloaded from belt loops Then SW686 speed loaders, Then SW pistols 40cal lastly Heckler+Koch 40cal . Off duty SW66 2in ,colt dic.spl2in, 4in colt python (best shooting gun ever had) glock 22 .40 cal 15+1 and an amt hard baller .45 (carried a .45 and M-60 as Military police till I made Sgt.then m-16 m203 combo) still miss the python and M-60 |
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Post by joe21a on Feb 17, 2009 18:01:56 GMT -5
Any one who carries a weapon for self defense should practice some kind combat shooting, including Rt and lt. hand, barricade and speed reloading and most of all be able to hit your mark under these conditions. Once that first shot has been fired things usually get pretty bad fast if your not prepared.
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Post by chickenhunter on Feb 17, 2009 23:13:45 GMT -5
Revolver, if I was betting my life on it going bang!
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Post by Richard on Apr 2, 2009 19:50:39 GMT -5
My police career started out with the Colt Trooper .357 mag. A number of years later, the department bought new guns and switched to the S&W model 19 stainless. I was always a firm believer in the reliability of a revolver and still am.........but, around 1988 (I believe) we decided to make the transition to automatics and subsequently decided on the Sig Sauer mod. 226 9mm. Being the armorer for the department, I was privileged to attend the "Sig school" and really got into the pistols. I am now a firm believer that a "quality" pistol such as the Sig (yes, there are others also) is about reliable as a revolver.
Whyohe mentioned the Kel-Tec. I just bought one (P3AT - 380) a few months ago and am very impressed with it. It is accurate: 5 shots in 2.5" at 7 yds. from the Weaver stance. It is extremely light and concealable and have enough punch to be an effective "self-defense" gun. For on-duty law enforcement, I would want a .45 ACP. Fully loaded (seven shots) its 11 oz. and very flat. DeSantis makes a rubber/vinyl pocket holster that fits perfect in your rear jeans pocket.
Richard
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Post by raf on Apr 2, 2009 21:58:57 GMT -5
Richard that's interesting. My career started 40 years ago and had a Colt but in 38 special. Then moved up to a S&W model 10 in 38. Finally made the switch to 40 Cal Glock with a 15 shot mag. I really liked the Glock. When I retired I had to give it back and had over 2000 rounds of practice ammo which we went through in about an hour. That was fun but a little hard on the wrist |
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Post by jims on Apr 2, 2009 22:06:12 GMT -5
raf: In our area when an officer retires often he can retire his duty firearm with him for a very modest sum, sometimes as low as $1.
My Glocks likewise, although winning no beauty prizes, have been very reliable, hence their real beauty I guess. If I positively wanted a handgun to go bang reliably every time I would have a revolver IMHO.
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Post by 161 on Apr 3, 2009 7:31:58 GMT -5
You can load a revolver, leave it alone for 20 years and it will still work. Semi auto pistols need care an cleaning. I'm not saying revolvers don't but you have no mag spring to worry about.
Also if you find yourself in a fair gunfight, (YOUR TACTICS SUCK)!
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Post by raf on Apr 3, 2009 10:16:31 GMT -5
raf: In our area when an officer retires often he can retire his duty firearm with him for a very modest sum, sometimes as low as $1. . Never happen here. I did get to keep my badge. |
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