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Jan 10, 2012 10:40:35 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 10:40:35 GMT -5
Well my 220 has been shot with all the top end slugs and while it is decent with everything, its not great and I'm not happy. Everything is right, it is topped with a Nikon scope which is mounted with Burris tactical rings, trigger is set down, stock is floating free so I am assuming that this is just the best this gun will do. So now its up in the air with what I'm gonna do with it. I've shot Federal's, Winchester's, and Remington's best loads thru it and while its decent I guess, compared to alot of other slug guns out there, it's not good enough. Scratching my head....lol
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220F
Jan 10, 2012 11:27:24 GMT -5
Post by mrbuck on Jan 10, 2012 11:27:24 GMT -5
ohioguy---since I have been scratching my head in NJ with these slugguns since 1973 ,I know how you feel ! And it's getting a little thin on top ! Close enough has never been good enough for me in life and with those big Ohio bucks in your backyard I can see why it is not good enough for you either. All animals deserve our absolute best effort. And the 20ga. slug does not have the energy of the 12ga. so you really should never settle for so-so accuracy. By the way what kind of groups are you talking about? 2'',3'' 4'' at 100yds.??
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220F
Jan 10, 2012 16:44:52 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 16:44:52 GMT -5
average groups around 2 1/2 at 100 yards and more than double that at 200, more like triple. That's what scares me away. 6" plus groups at 200 aren't gonna cut it for me. I know this is probably the norm for alot of slug guns but my Ithaca DSIII blows this away. I wanted a lighter more packable gun for certain days, looks like I'm stuck carrying my tank full time. I don't want to spend any more money on this gun and not sure it'd help anyway, may stick it in the cabinet and keep it for kids to use or i may unload it and order up a new Ithaca seeing how the new ones are 2 pounds lighter.
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220F
Jan 10, 2012 18:58:04 GMT -5
Post by mrbuck on Jan 10, 2012 18:58:04 GMT -5
ohioguy--- I wonder if a 20ga. (260gr.) slug has enough punch with a '' real world '' muzzle velocity of 1750fps at 200yds? A Federal 12ga. 2 3/4'' 325gr. Barnes Tipped Copper Slug at 1750f.p.s . does not have 1000lbs of punch at 200yds when fired from a 24 inch bbl. A big nasty hole, yes...but better hop he is broad side.
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Jan 10, 2012 19:23:26 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 19:23:26 GMT -5
Yeah I follow ya, think I convinced myself of the 220 on alot of hear say, prob a decent gun but realistically prob not the best choice when 200 yard plus shots are possible. I really like the gun and the accutrigger but I don't think it's gonna make the cut, especially on the caliber of deer we chase. I don't wanna take any unnecessary chances. May just continue to keep the Ithaca my number one and only slug gun and trade up the savage for a smokeless gun or sell it and put it towards one. Live and learn.
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220F
Jan 12, 2012 10:09:14 GMT -5
Post by bill on Jan 12, 2012 10:09:14 GMT -5
Ohio Guy stick with that deer slaying shot gun for any of those sits that are just over 100 yards. dump the 220 grab a savage for anything else over 125 yards and you wont look back, my deer slaying rig is a 20 gauge ultra slug hunter. and my go to rig is the savage for all those shots over 100 yards. that savage has never let me down been there done that now just do it. good luck BILL
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220F
Jan 12, 2012 20:03:21 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 20:03:21 GMT -5
Still scratching my head wondering why I ever bought a 20 ga instead of a Savage ML or having a smokeless ML built. Especially when my other slug gun is a deadly 200 yard gun and I gave up an Ultra Slug Hunter in 12, to get the 20 ga. Need my head checked I think. (No comments from you Dave W!!)
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220F
Jan 12, 2012 22:07:24 GMT -5
Post by Dave W on Jan 12, 2012 22:07:24 GMT -5
Still scratching my head wondering why I ever bought a 20 ga instead of a Savage ML or having a smokeless ML built. Especially when my other slug gun is a deadly 200 yard gun and I gave up an Ultra Slug Hunter in 12, to get the 20 ga. Need my head checked I think. (No comments from you Dave W!!) ;D
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220F
Jan 13, 2012 11:29:54 GMT -5
Post by mrbuck on Jan 13, 2012 11:29:54 GMT -5
ohioguy... How about a new Browning A Bolt ? Before the new ones were introduced folks around here were paying anything to get one . In a high end gun shop one was offered with a Leupold 2-7 Shotgun Scope in summer 2009 for $ 3000.oo ! And it sold.
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220F
Jan 13, 2012 15:27:07 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 15:27:07 GMT -5
They are nice guns for sure, but no way would I ever pay the price they ask and bring. If I spend anywhere near a grand for any slug gun, it'll be an Ithaca. Since I have one of them already I guess I'll quit playing with slug guns and buy or build a smokeless ML.
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220F
Jan 13, 2012 17:21:03 GMT -5
Post by mrbuck on Jan 13, 2012 17:21:03 GMT -5
ohioguy...I know what you mean. Cabela's has them for about a $1000.00 then a scope and mounts befitting a $1000.00 firearm and were talking big bucks. (excuse the pun) With that kind of investment one would hope to get three shots touching at 100yds. with a fast , efficent , pointed slug like the Barnes 325gr. 2 3/4'' Tipped or the Remington Accu Tip.
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Jan 13, 2012 20:05:55 GMT -5
Post by tcmech on Jan 13, 2012 20:05:55 GMT -5
Whats the twist on that ithaca? The browning and marlin slug guns were a 1 in 28, and performed well with the fast moving sabots.
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Jan 13, 2012 20:27:56 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 20:27:56 GMT -5
I believe they are 1-34 or 1-35. I'd have to double check to be sure but it's def one or the other. Whichever it is, it shoots all the new "fast" slugs very very well. I had a Mossberg 695 that shot pretty good also, and an ultra slug hunter in 12 that shot good, but I've never shot or seen another slug gun shoot groups like the old DSIII. I'm not out to bash any slug guns or the savage 220 which I bought, it shoots ok and is a very nice gun, just not good enough, especially from beyond 100 yards out to 200.
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Jan 16, 2012 21:28:57 GMT -5
Post by hornet22savage on Jan 16, 2012 21:28:57 GMT -5
The Ithaca 12 ga. are a 1:28 twist and always have been foar as I know. The 20's are 1:24
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Jan 16, 2012 23:21:39 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 23:21:39 GMT -5
The old/original DSIII's like I have are 1:35 inch twist. The new ones since the company was moved to Ohio are 1:28.
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Jan 31, 2012 11:27:06 GMT -5
Post by bryguy on Jan 31, 2012 11:27:06 GMT -5
For those of you guys having issues with the 220, we have found that these guns tend to prefer tobe shot very clean........after about 10 shots or so accuracy starts to go down hill.......I always take a bore snake to the range with me and run it thorugh the gun after 10 rounds......no solvent or anything, just a good brushing seems to make a huge difference. Mine will shoot the 3 inch accu-tips pretty well. I am fortunate that we can use high powered rifles here in NC, so I have no need to stretch the range on my 220 or the Savage MLII......they are 'niche' guns for me, used in areas that prohibit centerfires from the ground or are shotgun/muzzleloader only(like some of the NWR hunts we participate in). Something we have found in messing with these guns
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Jan 31, 2012 15:55:36 GMT -5
Post by mrbuck on Jan 31, 2012 15:55:36 GMT -5
bryguy...thanks for the tip .It's nice to hunt in different states and different types of deer habitat so we can justify all of the nich guns that we have for the same animal !!! NC is my favorite place to hunt deer. The deer are as spooky as anywhere, great eating, and it's never too cold !!
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220F
Feb 1, 2012 7:53:09 GMT -5
Post by bryguy on Feb 1, 2012 7:53:09 GMT -5
mrbuck, a little bit of cold weather would have been nice this year........we had a pretty tough season with the warm temps, drought, Hurricane and blue tongue outbreak in the eastern part of the state.......
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220F
Feb 1, 2012 8:48:30 GMT -5
Post by slugger on Feb 1, 2012 8:48:30 GMT -5
mrbuck, a little bit of cold weather would have been nice this year........we had a pretty tough season with the warm temps, drought, Hurricane and blue tongue outbreak in the eastern part of the state....... Sounds like your in Montana too!!!
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220F
Feb 1, 2012 11:21:59 GMT -5
Post by mrbuck on Feb 1, 2012 11:21:59 GMT -5
bryguy.. Replied to your post on the Dirty Barrel link....oops!
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Feb 19, 2012 19:58:05 GMT -5
Post by mtj555 on Feb 19, 2012 19:58:05 GMT -5
Have a 220F youth for my daughter. It shoots the 3 inch rem accutips into 1 inch at 100 yards.
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Feb 20, 2012 9:53:04 GMT -5
Post by lunchbox on Feb 20, 2012 9:53:04 GMT -5
On my 220F I tried the federal tipped, federal non tipped, and the SST's. I can get the tipped into around 1.5" at 100yds with a 3 shot group, My wife an inch with these Then non tipped about 3" me and the wife about 4" at 100yds The SST's I think the barrel was getting hot and I didnt give them a fair chance but about 8" at 100 yds and wife was 1 for 3 on the paper with these
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Feb 20, 2012 9:57:18 GMT -5
Post by lunchbox on Feb 20, 2012 9:57:18 GMT -5
The ejection problems that I had with mine were with any size slug I put into the clip. What I found out in my case was that when I put the second round in the clip that I was somehow getting the lip of the brass on the top shell behind the lip of the bottom shell and it would not feed right. After I saw this I thought that it was just a fluke but I tried it repeatedly and every time with the 3 different kinds of slugs it happened. So even tho it is kinda a pain to do I have to watch how I load the clip and make sure the lips are not on the wrong side of each other. Maybe that will help someone else out on here that is having loading problems.
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Feb 24, 2012 17:51:14 GMT -5
Post by Tarheel on Feb 24, 2012 17:51:14 GMT -5
I believe that if I decide to get a bolt action slug gun then I'll get a Browning A-Bolt II. They are extremely accurate and reliable.
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Feb 24, 2012 18:26:51 GMT -5
Post by mrbuck on Feb 24, 2012 18:26:51 GMT -5
Tarheel...Never heard one complaint about a Browning A Bolt shotgun other than folks wishing they were a little less money. When you something for less money but you are never really happy with it's performance you have just wasted money.
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Mar 5, 2012 22:07:41 GMT -5
Post by Tarheel on Mar 5, 2012 22:07:41 GMT -5
Agreed Mr. Buck. From what I have read and seen the Browning A-Bolt slug gun is a real shooter and the thing I like most is that their stock feels like their rifles..
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May 7, 2014 19:03:43 GMT -5
Post by ronnie on May 7, 2014 19:03:43 GMT -5
Ok folks guess I just got lucky my 220 will raghole at 100 yds. With 265 grain remington accutips. These groups were shot off of truck hood with coveralls rolled up for a rest needless to say I am happy with mine.
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Jul 14, 2014 8:44:24 GMT -5
Post by 30calrifle on Jul 14, 2014 8:44:24 GMT -5
bought one last fall based on reports and the accuracy of my other Savages, I was completely dissapointed, very tempormental accuracy.
After shooting about $100.00 worth of ammo, I thew the towel in and bought a H & R ultra slug in 20 ga. Took a loss on the Savage, was worth it. The H&R is the ultimate slug gun. Bar none.
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Jul 18, 2014 6:30:53 GMT -5
Post by 30calrifle on Jul 18, 2014 6:30:53 GMT -5
I have had poor luck with a 220 also, ejecting the shell was temper-mental, accuracy not what I expected.
One day using Remington accutips it would be a nice 2 1/2 group at 100 yards, a week later, it went to 6 inch groups.
I spent a ton of money on ammo and range time and lost all confidence in this gun.
Federal ammo, Hornady, Lightfields none work ed well enough. It was topped off with a 3 x 9 Bushnell Elite. Tried a Burris, no different.
Refused to send gun back to Savage, why? It was a brand new gun. Traded it for a H & R Ultra Slug in 20 ga. And never looked back. See my post in UltraSlug.
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Post by gjs4 on Sept 5, 2014 20:39:25 GMT -5
Owned one and sold it due to the range capability of my 10ml. My brother bought ones a vx2. 5"-8" groups at 200 whipped Barnes and 1-3" groups at 100.
Mine had the bolt fixed by savage due to light pin strikes my brothers need the action hammered open to eject properly- but they're the most accurate slug guns for the money IMO and some people maybe expecting a scalpel performance from a steak knife here
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