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Post by rexxer on Mar 8, 2009 14:51:32 GMT -5
Quote- Dave W
A .45 shooting 2600+ with 200gr bullets is far easier on the shoulder and scope than a .50 or .45 pushing 300's at 2300+, a .45 pushing a 200gr bullet at 2900 still does not equal the torture test of the 300's that many here are putting on their equipment according to a recoil calculator. The more you shoot, the more you increase your odds of scope problems, the severity of the load will only increase the odds I feel. Saying that, the guys shooting .45's with 200gr bullets should experience less problems than guys shooting sabotless or shooting 300's out of a .50. IMO the problem is three major factors-number of shots, recoil, and quality or lack of from scope manufacturers.
Dave W is my last life line. Yes, this is my final answer!!!
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Post by rbinar on Mar 9, 2009 1:43:53 GMT -5
What this demonstrates to me is quite simply this. Unless the action is fully supported, it will flex. I agree, in fact I'd say it will flex even if fully supported. If you took a piece of steel about the shape of the 10ML action and hit it with a sledge hammer no one would say it does not flex. The energy of a shot may well transfer hammer like energy (though not a big sledge maybe a 4 pound with short handle) into the stock and barrel. The hammer would flex the metal and the shot does also. But all actions flex and we are looking at a relative amount. Some one mentioned the 10ML won't flex any more than a Remington 700 and I'd add most other actions. When the post about scope failures came up I couldn't comment because I've had no unexpected failures. But that does not mean I discount the experiences of others. But I wonder if I'm doing anything different? As you mention all my actions are bedded (I'd hope I can say properly) but I still abuse equipment to some degree. Recently 325 grain bullets were shot to 2350+fps for 50 caliber sabot-less experiments. That and other things should have given the scope(s) a ride. So assuming I'm as tough as anyone on the flexing issue why do the dozen or so scopes I've used still work? Could it be something to do with the bedding? Am I just lucky? I don't know and think it would take extensive input to have a serious opinion.
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Post by Rifleman on Mar 9, 2009 14:42:57 GMT -5
As far as scope problems go in relation to this flexing I think we can avoid problems by following a few rules of thumb. Use a good scope, good bases and rings, mount it right, bed the action right, torque it right and make sure you know where your warranty card is.
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Post by rrbou on Mar 9, 2009 15:02:04 GMT -5
make sure you know where your warranty card is. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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