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Post by hubcap52 on Jun 10, 2011 13:12:42 GMT -5
I just got a new "last run" Savage. One of several things I'm disappointed with is a very rough bore. Should I send it back, polish it out, or...? Any suggestions for smoothing it out if that's how I go?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 14:17:31 GMT -5
Man am I glad I decided to convert a 700ML to smokeless after reading about these last run guns. Sounds more like a clean the warehouse out and slap some together. I know where some NIB SS ones are for 650.00 / 680.00 depending on laminate hardwood or camo synthetic stocks. Maybe they were made to better standards then the blued last run ones?
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Post by mike3132 on Jun 10, 2011 14:23:17 GMT -5
Shoot it first with a proven load and then make a decision on what to do. Ive seen some rough bore guns shoot acceptable groups. Mike
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Post by 500cadillac on Jun 10, 2011 18:29:16 GMT -5
Man am I glad I decided to convert a 700ML to smokeless after reading about these last run guns. Sounds more like a clean the warehouse out and slap some together. I know where some NIB SS ones are for 650.00 / 680.00 depending on laminate hardwood or camo synthetic stocks. Maybe they were made to better standards then the blued last run ones? Its not just the last run guns, last 2 years at least.
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Post by mountainam on Jun 10, 2011 18:54:17 GMT -5
Hubcap52, I know how you feel. I went through the same thing. The tough part is the feeling that " WOW---THIS is all that that much money buys?" You can buy a pac-nor .45cal barrel for $550 or so and solve the problem. My advice is that you send it back. Find a used Remington 700ML and go the Dave D/Pac -Nor route or the Fishhawk/Mcgowen conversion in .45cal. This is the time of the year to start a new build. And it won't cost you that much more than the stock Savage 10MLII. I have Remingtons that the bores look like a mirror inside even after some have over 800 shots. Expect to pay $300 for a pristine 700ML and as little as $90 for one with a crappy bore. Bad bores are due to nothing other than neglect. I have a 3rd option for you ,but you'll have to PM me. Good luck on your decision.
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Post by bigt on Jun 11, 2011 14:41:19 GMT -5
I just got a new "last run" Savage. One of several things I'm disappointed with is a very rough bore. Should I send it back, polish it out, or...? Any suggestions for smoothing it out if that's how I go? I got mine last Fall, bore was rough, but shot fine. 400 to 500 passes with J B bore paste, shhots better and cleanup is easier, (sub moa @100 and 2 inches @ 200)
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Post by sw on Jun 11, 2011 15:32:17 GMT -5
Firelapping works. I've posted a # of times how to do this. A search should turn one of these up. Better: a 45 or 40 if legal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 20:18:32 GMT -5
I've owned three .50 cal ML 11's. One with a blued barrel and two with stainless barrels. One of the stainlesses was a pre-accutrigger model and it had the best [smoothest] barrel of all. The later model stainless and the blued barrel both had rough barrels. .... The pre-accutrigger stainless and the later model stainless would never shoot near as good as the blued barrel [roughest]. I guess the point in my experience is that you never know what you've got until you shoot it....The roughest barrel I owned would shoot circles around those two stainlesses rough or smooth.... Go figure? Zen
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2011 8:41:21 GMT -5
Sounds promising for you 500cadillac you just got to shoot it!!! Good luck guys, Greenhorn
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jun 12, 2011 9:39:45 GMT -5
unfortunately there seems to be a lack of attention to detail on the quality of the MLII anymore...It must be due to our caveman route we have decided to go. Most front stuffers are looking for that $150 "extra season".... I dont think Savage ever forethought someone would be able to fine tune one of these "primitive" weapons to shoot right up there with some of the center fire caliber's. However through the perseverance and ingenuity of a very talented few we are getting noticed( another barrel maker just got on board). After reading the good advice here I went with my first pacnor savage buile...now I am in my second build...pacnor/bullberry/pacnor on a T/C frame. I read about more problematic bores from Savage than I ever should....But alas as the previous post says...There are other route's to go. My next is going to be a rem700 build..I don't know about barrels or caliber's yet... But I am sure I am not going to start again with a box stock setup and have to "not use " any of it...All I have left of my Savage is the action and the lug... rest is just laying around here somewhere. Good luck though...Your gonna have a BLAST!.. Drop
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Post by cfvickers on Jun 12, 2011 10:33:28 GMT -5
Rough bores can be fixed, I have one of the very first run original ones and the bore is beautiful and TIGHT. But Here is what I do with rifle bores that are rough. Get some KG2 Bore Restore and instead of putting it on a patch use a 20 gauge or 50 cal if you can find one, steel brush with it the one i use looks like a coiled spring (I did it to a slug gun). put a liberal amount on the brush and run it through about 50 strokes just up and down without adding more, if you put enough polish on there you will see that no more is needed. Have it clean before you start. then get a dry patch and run 5 patches through it about 10-15 strokes each. the last should come out pretty clean, maybe the last couple, do it anyway with the last two to remove any remaining surface polish. Then use an oiled patch (remoil, wd40 whatever you got doesn't matter gonna remove the oil in a minute any way.) then 3 alcohol patches or until they look pretty clean. then clean it again with a bore solvent (I use KG1 Carbon remover but have used hoppes and it works too) and then dry it out with a couple clean patches. Your bore should be in FAR better shape than when you started now. It is a messy process but it gets results. Hope this helps. For the record I would usually never recommend a steel brush on a rifled barrel of any sort but when the bore has burrs and is in poor condition you arent gonna make it worse. If you are concerned with that then use a 30 cal brush wrapped in steel 000 steel wool, and apply the polish with this, it will work very well too.
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