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Post by hornet22savage on Jun 4, 2011 9:18:15 GMT -5
Now that these have been out for a few years I'm wondering how well they are performiong on game. I have rear mixed reviews on their performance, some people are expirencing misfires some people are expirencing poor expansion. Anybody here use them? What were your results good or bad? Right now I'm using Remington Core-Lokt Sabot Slugs and they are costing me a lot of money, But they work great oll the way out to 175 yds. so far. I can get the Accu-Tips a lot cheaper and I'm just wondering about them before I buy and switch.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jun 4, 2011 13:30:54 GMT -5
I can't imagine that a lack of expansion is a big deal. They start out at like .58 caliber right? Thats a big hole....as big as a 30 cal rifle bullet expanding to twice it diameter.
The misfires are concerning though.....
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Post by hornet22savage on Jun 4, 2011 14:23:14 GMT -5
Yeah it ther expansion shouls not be a problem since they are a .58 cal slug and thay also sport a cartrige bass jacket which makes them hard I imagine. As for the misfires it has been with several different gun manufactures pretty much all of them at one point in time or another. Hard to tell it it's a matter of maintence of not. A few years back I was shooting Winchester Platnium Tips and was having a hard time with them misfiring. Took my Ithaca M37 to a good Ithaca man and he told me the tolerances were so tight the hammer was actually draging on the bolt and slowing down makeing it hard to ignite hard primers, which winchester is know for I guess. He opened up that clearance for me and it is a lot better now.
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Post by rangeball on Jun 17, 2011 9:53:30 GMT -5
First year they were available I used them. Shot great from my H&R 12g slughunter. Misfired on a BC buck at 25 yards I pulled the trigger 4-5 times and no go. He finally moved off about 50 yds in very dense grass, I reloaded with a hastings slug and tried, but grass was too thick, he bounded off un-touched. I jumped him later following him up, he was massive Later the same season I had another misfire on a doe. The next day I used one on a pair of does, center punched the first one at about 30 yds, slug penciled through, hardly any lung damage, she went about 10yds and laid down, took her 10-15 minutes to die. Shot her sister with a hastings, bang flop dead right there. Personally I won't use them again.
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Post by hornet22savage on Jun 17, 2011 9:59:29 GMT -5
good to know thats what I'm talking about Misfires and poor performance. Must be you have to aim for bone to get good results.
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Post by rangeball on Jun 17, 2011 10:16:30 GMT -5
I shot probably 10-15 of them at the range, no problems whatsoever. Very accurate and the recovered sabots were all in great shape and almost identical. I was blowing sabots with the hornady sst, federal barnes (my previous gold standard until they changed them a few years back) and remington core-lokts. I was really glad to have found something that shot almost as good as the old federal barnes and was seriously let down when it counted. It was what pushed me to go smokeless ML and I haven't looked back
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Post by hornet22savage on Jun 17, 2011 16:36:40 GMT -5
I was using the Winchester Platnium Tip sabot slugs for years. Thay gave me good 3-4 inch groups at 100 yds. and terminal performance was awsome. A friend of mine that shoots a Remington 1100 with rifled choke tube bought a box of the Core-Lokts and after two shots not grouping well tossed me the other three. I shot thme and had a sub 1 1/2 inch group at 100 yds. Everybody knows the Core-Lokt sabot slugs are expensive. I'm getting them for $16 a box at Wal-Mart minus 10% wife's discount. I can get the Accu Tips for $12 on sale at Dicks Sproting goods, they don't carry the Core-Lots nor will they order them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 17:02:10 GMT -5
First year they were available I used them. Shot great from my H&R 12g slughunter. Misfired on a BC buck at 25 yards I pulled the trigger 4-5 times and no go. He finally moved off about 50 yds in very dense grass, I reloaded with a hastings slug and tried, but grass was too thick, he bounded off un-touched. I jumped him later following him up, he was massive Later the same season I had another misfire on a doe. The next day I used one on a pair of does, center punched the first one at about 30 yds, slug penciled through, hardly any lung damage, she went about 10yds and laid down, took her 10-15 minutes to die. Shot her sister with a hastings, bang flop dead right there. Personally I won't use them again. They misfired in my H&R Ultra Slug Hunter Deluxe 20ga at the range. Remington sent me $25 after I returned 2 boxes of shells. I am not sure what gun Reminton used but they fired for them. They blamed my gun which after reading alot the H&R's were misfiring with the 3" shells. I switched to 2 3/4 Buckhammers and no misfires.
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Post by lwh723 on Aug 25, 2011 14:23:03 GMT -5
Worked great in my DSII 20g. I've shot probably a dozen deer with them in the last 2 years. Lots of great performance from 10 yards to 157 yards.
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Post by artjr338wm on Sept 8, 2011 17:28:32 GMT -5
May I suggest anyone looking for a good slug give Winchesters Partition Golds a try. I have shot over a hundered of them out of my Marlin 512 Slugmaster, Browning A-Bolt slug gun, and my NEF 920. All shot the WPG at under 2" at 100 and around 3.5-3.75" at 200yrds. Terminal performance on deer is can only be described as devistating. Sighted in 3" high at 100, drop at 200yrds is 7" consistantly.
My longest laser RF confirmed kill was 198 yards on a broad side buck. He dropped at the shot and was DRT. Slug was a complete pass through that utterly destroid his lungs and left a golf ball sized exit hole.
Thay can be had for less than $11 per box at Natchez SS. If I did not stumble on a huge cash of them at Target on sale long after deer season ended, and talk the manager in selling me them for $8 a box if I bought all, that is what I would buy now or the Federal Barnes Tiped expanders, which ever I could find cheaper. Both shoot nice 1.5" groups out of my 512 and A-Bolt.
Dave Henderson and one of his friends used the Winchester PGs to kill two Bisons weighing around 1800lbs each and Dave said the WPG's perfromed superbly. His Bison, IIRC was shot at over 100yrds (broad side) and was a compleat pass through!.
Never had a Federal Barnes Tiped Expander suffer sabot failure on me to date.
I once used and loved the Hastings Hybreds then the IDS slugs, but when i could no longer find them cheaper than the Winchesters or Federals, I stoped buying them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2011 6:04:43 GMT -5
IMO, make the switch. They are devastating on deer, period. Winchester XP3's have also proven to be just as accurate and just as deadly. I shoot the Accutips out of a DSIII and my boy shoots the XP3's out of an Ultra Slug Hunter. 7 deer taken between the two makes, 7 deer dropped instantly in their tracks. From 15 yards to beyond 200, both these slugs get an A+ from me.
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Post by mrbuck on Dec 12, 2011 17:33:54 GMT -5
ohioguy...when you test your Savage 220 with the Remington Accutips or any other slugs please post the results.
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Post by Dave W on Dec 12, 2011 17:51:13 GMT -5
ohioguy...when you test your Savage 220 with the Remington Accutips or any other slugs please post the results. I was with him when he shot the 220, with the tipped Barnes Expanders, 2" @ 100yds and just over 6" @ 200yds. 3 shot groups.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2011 16:27:43 GMT -5
I def will, I can't wait to get some and try em out. Hoping for the best. I really like the savage just hoping it will shoot to satisfaction.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2011 16:55:05 GMT -5
Either way, it'll shoot good enough for me and I'll have a nice back up gun to carry or I will make someone a proud new owner of a 220. I won't mess with it and try experiments, it'll either shoot or I'll sell it. I am anxious to try Accutips out of it and I will post results shortly after.
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Post by Dave W on Dec 14, 2011 16:43:05 GMT -5
Here is a pic of an Accutip entrance wound. Ohioguy can supply the rest of the details.
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Post by jims on Dec 14, 2011 18:49:43 GMT -5
Nice deer and shot.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Dec 14, 2011 20:25:22 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with that. Nice buck!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2011 20:30:24 GMT -5
Thanks I appreciate it. Since this isn't the first buck I've shot with the Accutips I am led to believe that I caught a piece of the brush I had to sneak the shot thru causing the bullet to expand in route, I've had great results with the Accutips every time but I've never had an entrance hole like this, either way it was fatal, instantly.
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Post by hornet22savage on Dec 14, 2011 22:19:31 GMT -5
I took a small doe saturday with the Accu-Tips at 30 yds. First shot behind the shoulder pass through both lungs. Second shot I put through her shoulder took out the heart. Upon dressing her out I found that the first slug penciled through her lungs with no expansion and exited. The second shot performed flawlessly going through the shoulder perfect expansion and exit.
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