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Post by 10ga on Mar 21, 2011 14:56:25 GMT -5
Thinking of getting a .40 from green mountain to drop in one of my stocks. Of course it'll be a percussion and ready to go in my stock. Anybody out there have a GM .40 and how does it do. Just roundball or do you have a REAL mold. 40 with a real mold would be a neat gun. I'd just have to have one for turkey hunting so i don't have to haul one of my #10 guns. Be neat for scurrils and rabbits too. Best to all, 10 ga
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Post by swampmen on Apr 27, 2011 23:11:30 GMT -5
should work
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Post by rossman40 on Apr 30, 2011 11:18:37 GMT -5
I would tend to go .36 if you can find one in a tight twist. MMP makes a sabot for that if you want to go that route but patched round ball is still fun. A guy I know made this ML he used for squirrel that was like .38 cal and he molded conicals for, they were about 100gr IIRC. The rifle looked like crap and he used the barrel from a 1885 Winchester and the lock from a 1858 from what I remember of the story. He was a great shot and would head shoot squirrels all day with that rifle and I never seen him miss when I was with him.
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Post by indiana1234 on May 14, 2011 6:50:30 GMT -5
The 40 caliber Green Mountain drop-in barrels have a twist made for roundballs.
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Post by rossman40 on May 14, 2011 11:52:41 GMT -5
Squirrel hunting with a ML is still kinda a tradition in KY and some parts of MO, IL and WV or at least was back in 60s and 70s. A lot of .36 cals and some smaller like .32. I do not know where the .40 came from, I know they are being imported. Some states have a limit on size when using a ML on small game. TC used to offer a .36 traditional rifle till a few years ago and I think Traditions still offers .32 and .36 rifles but most dealers do not carry them. Green Mountain used to offer a drop-in barrel for a TC Hawken IIRC in .36 or .32. While most have real slow twist for roundball (1:48 or 1:66) your only shooting 50yds at the most. A .35 roundball for a .36 your looking at 65gr bullet with about 50grn of FFFG your looking at over 2000fps. It would be interesting to apply what we have learned to make a super accurate squirrel gun. A 100gr .30 cal bullet in a sabot or a conical with a fast twist barrel might be serious medicine.
I do not squirrel hunt as much anymore but the secret I was told when using a ML was cleaning between shots to get consistent POI. Myself I used a old model 24 Savage most of the time instead of MLing. I might get back into it with a rimfire.
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Post by rossman40 on May 16, 2011 10:48:03 GMT -5
I talked with a local, more traditional, MLer and according to him the .40 cal came about due to a lot of states having a .40 minimum for using on deer. He also said a .32 will foul worse then a .36 which is what I heard digging thru info. He said he hasn't owned a small caliber in years.
Plinking with roundball is one thing but looking at it, a .36 cal shooting a saboted .32 XTP or other jacketed bullet at 2000fps would be serious mojo and has my curiosity. But how much twist would you need if 1:48 isn't enough?
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Post by smokepole50 on Jun 21, 2011 17:44:06 GMT -5
I think you would need at least a 1:28 twist for a .323/8mm bullet shot in a 36 cal sabot.
I have a excellent condidtion 32 cal T/C Cherokee I used to shoot squirrels with. They usuallly are DRT when that 32 cal RB hits them.
Smokepole50
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Post by sw on Jun 27, 2011 7:11:24 GMT -5
I have a T/C 36 cal and a 40 cal GM on a T/C frame. There is a significant range difference as well as the 40 being more accurate. I use 50-65 g Pyrodex P. I have killed deer(lost none) with it, as Rossman has stated(AR). I normally used it at competitions of 100 yards or less if the wind was low. A saboted 36 cal conical would, of course, be a longer range contender. The 40 is a much more potent caliber than the 36 if RBs are the projectile.
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kb
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Post by kb on Nov 30, 2011 4:57:21 GMT -5
I have a TC 1 in 48 that shoots the rpb pretty good.
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Post by edwardamason on Nov 30, 2011 19:57:55 GMT -5
I have the green mountain 40 cal target barrel. It's the sweetest shooting traditional I have ever sh0t I settled in on 60 gr pyrodex with 385 ball and .018 pillow tick. It's extremely accurate out to 50 yards. I have not shot it past that yet. I've squille hunted with it to know its a game getter. I may take it this weekend and try it out on whitetail
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Post by edwardamason on Nov 30, 2011 19:59:54 GMT -5
The only issue u have faced was the ramrod des not want to stay in place and the key is a tad loose. In going to work on those issues.
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Post by edwardamason on Nov 30, 2011 20:02:17 GMT -5
Sorry replying on my iPhone and the keys are small
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kb
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Post by kb on Dec 16, 2011 20:06:56 GMT -5
Put a slight bend in the key. That will hold it in place.
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Post by edwardamason on Dec 31, 2011 11:24:16 GMT -5
Put a slight bend in the key. That will hold it in place. Thanks man I did that and now it works great. I still have to find a solution for my ramrod. I have a couple of ideas I am going to play with. I did not get to hunt with it this season. I got obsessed with trying to kill something with my Rem 700 ML that I got the bolt nose conversion on. So this little ML got put in the back of the safe and forgotten about. Our season ends tomorrow and I am not sure if I am going to be able to go or not. Squirrel seasons starts back up after Jan 1 so I will be taking this out and wearing out all those little critters that have been terrorizing me these last few months. |
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