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Post by KerryB on Feb 11, 2009 17:15:00 GMT -5
Am thinking of picking up a Glock after years of resisting the plastic gun. I like the ballistics of the 10mm when compared to everything except maybe the .40 or .357sig, as well as the availability of ammo. Also, i like the number of rounds that these can hold. I am thinking model 20, 22, 23, or 29 with a Crimson Trace grip. Now i need opinions on this caliber in a Glock as well as thoughts on this caliber in other similar models and different brands? Light weight, high capacity, good ballistics, reliability, and price are all factors. Lets hear it guys! Help me buy another pistol..............and thanks in advance...............
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Post by tcmech on Feb 11, 2009 19:50:22 GMT -5
I have two glocks, a first generation model 17, and a model 36.
They are both reliable and accurate. I carry the 36 on a daily basis and have absolute faith in it. The model 17 has had over 10k rounds and never malfunctioned on me.
I would like to get a 10mm but have just never got around to it. I would buy one if I had the money in my pocket and came across one for a decent price.
I have also heard that the glock is the pick of the litter for the 10mm handguns.
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Post by jims on Feb 11, 2009 23:49:48 GMT -5
KerryB: Not to be noisy, but what are your intended uses? I have an old style Model 23 and a Model 27, both 40s. I have the trijon (spelling?) on the 23. They are old but still work.
The things I like about the Glocks, absolutely reliable. I like the 40 over the 9mm. The 10mm is more gun than I need, it is indeed powerful. Not as popular or as many shells around. My father has the 357 sig barrel in addition but he never shoots his guns.
The Glocks are in my opinion ugly as to form but beautiful as far as function. Always will work I have found. They shoot well as far as accuracy goes but in my 23 I went with a lighter trigger spring.
I am certainly no handgun expert but told you what I know. I only shoot them unfortunately about once a year when I need to qualify with them.
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Post by ricksalisbury01 on Feb 12, 2009 9:10:08 GMT -5
I will start off saying I am not a fan of Glocks. They function well, but have never fit my hand at all. I went to a local indoor range here in Ohio, and rented Glocks, a Sig, a H&K, a M&P, and a Springfield XD. After shooting all the rentals, the XD won hands down. I did a fair amount of research and read the article about the XD torture test. ( springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php ) After reading the article, and shooting the rentals I bought a XD 40 cal in a sub-compact. After reloading rounds (4.5g Titegroup, 180grain Hornady HP/XTP), I was able to group at one inch at seven yards free hand. The round went through three one gallon milk jugs with full expansion (I do not want over penetration as my own requirement for a concealed carry firearm). That said, I would have bought the service compact if I were to buy again (and I just still might). I, like Jims, had night sights put on. However, I have shot with and without crimson trace grips, and find I am much, much faster without the laser. I find I spend too much time chasing the dot, and loose my shooting form when shooting with a laser. There are a ton of aftermarket tiger mods, and barrels for the four inch service length. Additionally, if you buy a four in a XD service compact in the .40 you can switch out the barrel to a .357 Sig and all the other hardware stays the same. I am not a rep, just a shooter that is picky. |
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Post by KerryB on Feb 14, 2009 23:35:44 GMT -5
Well, after studying your input, i decided i wanted a Springfield XDM Match .40 (black frame/stainless slide) with the 16+1 capacity and a couple of spare mags for home defense. I also decided i needed a Glock model 27 for a small and reliable carry pistol because of its small size. So one of each is how i decided to go. Just got back from Wally World this evening with a truck load of Winchester .40 ammo. Now i get the fun of playing with these two little gems! Thanks for the opinions guys! Kerry
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Post by jims on Feb 15, 2009 8:56:23 GMT -5
I think you will like the .40, it is a good cartridge.
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Post by bloodtrailer on Feb 15, 2009 22:18:49 GMT -5
I've carried a glock model 22 for over 10yrs as my off duty, on duty we had SW and now heckler and Koch all .40cal ,the glock never stops never malfunctions and does not care how dirty or misused it gets it WORKS WHEN YOU NEED IT! The SW would jam and malefaction wouldn't work dirty  |
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Post by KerryB on Feb 19, 2009 22:18:51 GMT -5
I haven't had a chance to shoot either the XDM or the Glock 27, but i have handled them a little now and i like the feel and trigger on both. Will hopefully do some shooting this weekend and post a report soon. I think i'm gonna love em!
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Post by bloodtrailer on Feb 21, 2009 10:54:45 GMT -5
If you buy new Glock they have some very thick lube on the barrel "loading ramp" that if it's not cleaned off will give feeding trouble. Give it a good cleaning a drop of lube on the rails and it will run all day and night!
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Post by KerryB on Feb 21, 2009 18:00:13 GMT -5
If you buy new Glock they have some very thick lube on the barrel "loading ramp" that if it's not cleaned off will give feeding trouble. Give it a good cleaning a drop of lube on the rails and it will run all day and night! THX buddy.......done! |
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Post by Hossdaniels on Feb 22, 2009 12:58:23 GMT -5
I will start off saying I am not a fan of Glocks. They function well, but have never fit my hand at all. I went to a local indoor range here in Ohio, and rented Glocks, a Sig, a H&K, a M&P, and a Springfield XD. After shooting all the rentals, the XD won hands down. A big +1. I did the same and went with the M&P. IMO it doesn't matter which one you get. They will all go 10,000 rounds. Get the one that fits you. FWIW, the M&P is nearing 2500 rds without a single malfunction. |
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Post by orion on Mar 4, 2009 9:03:15 GMT -5
Here is my 2 cents on the glock 10 mm.
I am no expert, but have shot a whole lot of pistols over the years. I did have a glock 29 (the shorty version) for a while (full house 10mm). I really liked it, except it would stove pipe all the time. I sent it to a glock armorer and he said it was fine, well people told me it was reloads, limp wrist, mags, etc. I never bought into any of that as I shoot mags all the time in every configuration and could not believe I was limp wristing. Others tried it also, and had problems too. Come to find out it was a problem with most of the early ones, and they have now fixed the problem. I got rid of mine way back. Now I regret it and would like to buy another.
Awesome pistol though, very accurate, big power for such a small package, I could get an honest 1200 with a 200 grain bullet. Great corrosion resistance finish.
The only problem or recommendation I would consider and this goes for all the 10 mms or 40's from what I understand, is that reloading for them is verboten unless you buy the aftermarket barrels that have chambers that are fully supported. Many kabooms have resulted from reloading in the 40's. The chambers are oversize and unsupported as you will see with many spent cases that are oval shaped. Mine would oval the cases, and I never had any problem reloading as I never heard of a glock kaboom back then. I don't believe the problem is so bad with the full 10's because the cases are thicker. Regardless, it is food for thought. Check out the glocktalk pages etc.
I would definitely buy one and get the aftermarket barrel for hunting and reloading, the factory barrel for home or duty.
Also 40 or 357 sig barrels are interchangeable with the full house ten.
I used to call my Mod 29 the magnificent bastard because it really was.
Regards
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Post by walt cowan on Mar 11, 2009 20:33:26 GMT -5
simple, safe and easy to clean. no safey, decocker or long da pull to work with.
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Post by 161 on Mar 11, 2009 21:43:11 GMT -5
When I shot USPSA with a glock I had one case failure AKA Glock kaboom. I bought a case gage and gaged every reloaded round after that. Never had any trouble there after. I still think Glock is the best all around combat pistol.
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Post by KerryB on Mar 12, 2009 9:50:27 GMT -5
I just picked up a couple of holsters for the Glock .40 model 27 yesterday. The Springfield XDM .40 came with a paddle holster, but i will probably pick up a couple of different styles for it as well. Haven't had a chance to shoot either pistol yet, but will soon............. I think i'm gonna love em both!  |
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Post by ricksalisbury01 on Mar 12, 2009 10:08:52 GMT -5
Hurry up and shoot these new additions :>). I check every day for your assessment! BlackHawk makes some good holsters, but I am having a hard time finding a Right hand paddle with the locking system for my XD. There are left hand paddle holsters for it everywhere! If you find one out there, please let me know so I can spend some more of the wife's money :>). Additionally, I keep waiting for Calico to make a GOOD inside the waist band holster for the XD
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2009 20:26:25 GMT -5
I was browsing over the discussions and have to add my 2 cents.
I too have a xd 40 and love it, having owned a glock or two I must say the xd impresses me a lot. one would be hard pressed to find a better 40 for the money.
I also have a usp 45 but havent shot it much but IM impressed so far, it seems to be very accurate & handles well but I dont like the o ring on the barrel, time will tell but every time I head out I keep reaching for the xd, guess that says something.....Bill
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Post by 161 on Mar 17, 2009 6:53:15 GMT -5
I've shot the XD and put several people through training with them. And I think they are as good a semi auto combat handgun as you can buy. They probably have a better trigger than the Glock.
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Post by orion on Mar 18, 2009 7:52:04 GMT -5
I really like the Springfield XDs as I had a .45 for a while. Mine was very reliable and accurate. I could never trully get used to the trigger and got rid of it. However, there was one thing on them that used to bug the crap out of me, which also encouraged me to sell mine. That is, the dam loaded cartridge indicator on the bolt or slide. That little metal piece that sticks up when a cartridge is in the chamber. That thing would get gummed up with residue and stick up regardless of whether there was a round in the chamber or not. I was constantly cleaning the thing and at times wondering if I left a cartridge in it when I really did not want to and it was like a nat that keeps flying in your face and you keep swatting at it but it never goes away. I thought about taking it out and filling the space with silver solder or epoxy but then thought I will just sell the thing because I really couldn't adapt to the trigger, since I shoot a lot of single action rugers.
Good Luck with yours, watch out for the nat.
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Post by pposey on Mar 18, 2010 18:44:13 GMT -5
Have 2 glock 9mms, one .40 cal, and a mod 20,10mm... the 10mm rules,,, couple deer, couple hogs, and a few other critters think so as well..... have an aftermarket 6 inch ported barrel on it,,,,
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