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Post by ozark on Jan 9, 2011 11:35:20 GMT -5
I don't think there will be problems among our children. We have discussed our decision and none are disagreeing. We have paid for it and the funeral home will handle it all. Naturally they wanted us to really think this over before committing ourselves. Who would benefit by a mind change? lol In Arkansas you can have a grave on your property but the law requires a survey be made so the spot can be identified on a map. If the property is sold there is another hassle.
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Post by Rifleman on Jan 10, 2011 15:57:29 GMT -5
I suppose since my name came up I will chime in here. If one thinks that how their remains are handled has anything at all to do with their standing with the Lord, they are in trouble allready. Bottom line- Christ died once for all sins, and we are to repent of any hope we have in our good works. Read what the Apostle Paul said in Phillipians 3, where he said he counted all things but dung that he may win Christ. I suppose if I did not have a ton of insurance through work I would consider this matter closely myself, but since I am worth far more dead then alive at this stage of the game, I could care less how much it costs to bury my old house. I was thinking of having them try to place all of my ammo and shot and reloading bullets and muzzle loader bullets in my casket and making a list of the bad Pastors who taught the law instead of grace to be my pall bearers. They wanted to place a burden on me, and at least I would get to be a burden to them for awhile!
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Post by orionsoracle on Feb 23, 2011 7:59:09 GMT -5
A good friend of mine is a funeral director. I am not willing to throw that sort of $ his way just to bury my body. I believe that "ashes to ashes" is AOK is the Lord's eyes.I Wisconsin,it is illegal to spread ones ashes about a property according to the law. Well Folks,what they don't know wont hurt them. How many funeral's have you been at where people comment about how the deceased person "looked"? When my Grandmother passed,I was about 10 and very close to her. It was shear torture having to walk up and view her in her casket. People say they need closure? IMHO<,,BS. Remember someone how they were,not how they are,,,,dead. Just my thoughts
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Post by ozark on Feb 23, 2011 19:56:00 GMT -5
A new wrinkle to our decision. Strictly for sentimental reasons on our part we have decided to hold the ashes of whoever goes first until the other goes and then mix the ashes together before spreading them.We have always done things together so why change in the end? Ben
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Post by deadon on Feb 23, 2011 20:04:31 GMT -5
A new wrinkle to our decision. Strictly for sentimental reasons on our part we have decided to hold the ashes of whoever goes first until the other goes and then mix the ashes together before spreading them.We have always done things together so why change in the end? Ben Ben, That is a great idea. You and the Angel are a special Breed and we love you Rusty
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Post by sw on Feb 26, 2011 8:21:15 GMT -5
A new wrinkle to our decision. Strictly for sentimental reasons on our part we have decided to hold the ashes of whoever goes first until the other goes and then mix the ashes together before spreading them.We have always done things together so why change in the end? Ben Ben, That is a great idea. You and the Angel are a special Breed and we love you Rusty I agree totally AND with the entire gist of the posts on this thread. You guys "have it together". Especially impressive to me, is not sub- coming to the idea of the actual physical body being resurrected. Very few bodies of people who lived 1500 years ago are in much condition for a physical resurrection, nor those who hit the Twin Towers, etc . Steve
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Post by alphaburnt on Feb 26, 2011 13:36:01 GMT -5
I had never given this topic much thought until I began reading these posts. As to God raising the body from a casket or the ashes, I was reading Genesis 2:7 and it says,"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed life into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul".
In reading Genesis up until this point, Lord God ( capitalized in the scripture and man is not) has done many wondrous and miraculous things already. He created the earth we are on, the surrounding heavens, devised the air we breathe, the atmosphere, the animals, the plants and everything that it would take to sustain the earth and THEN this creation of man with soul. This is awesome and great right there, but then the Holy Bible is an account of many miracles and TIMELESS lessons applying to our situations to demonstrate He loves us and is constantly in control. So, I do not doubt for a second His ability to raise His children in Christ once again no matter what state their earthly bodies were in at the time of their expiring.
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Post by ozarxoffspring on Mar 3, 2011 14:23:55 GMT -5
I realize that death, overall, is difficult to deal with, even under the best of circumstances. Understood, too, is the relief it may well be to have a designated actual "spot" to visit the loved one when laid to rest. My thoughts on this seems rather over-simplified to many, I suppose.
My mother, now gone for less than a week now, was a nature lover and a free spirit. She loved life and everything that came with it. She was the most terminally cheerful/optimistic person I am guessing I will ever have known in my life. When times got tough, she smiled all the more. She was always determined never to allow Satan to "steal her joy."
Like all of us, Mom was limited with a physical body, but her spirit and the essence of her was limitless. She fought against sorrow, sadness, anger, and depression, yet one would never see it because again, that smile, that GENUINE smile of hers was ever-present.
The fight against all negativity was not kept within her, either. Anyone around her was showered with a magic, a force that would not be defeated. It never failed, when you were in the presence of my mother, even for a short time, you came away with a heart full of love, and pockets over-running with glowing sunshine. It was inevitable, and many came to her because of that phenomenon.
All that to say this: Life could not harness her energy, her charm, her love of God and nature and the love for my daddy. And with her decision to be cremated, death would have no hold on her, either. There would be no plot of ground which would entomb her body in order for those who remain to gather and shed tears over her passing. In her opinion, she wished her life to be celebrated and remembered fondly and lovingly, not her passing. The importance was to be placed on the positive, her time she lived among us with zeal and adoration of not creation, rather the Creator.
No, when the appointed time comes, Daddy's ashes will mingle with those of his beloved and together in death, as they did in life, make this earth a better place in which to live.
T
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Post by petev on Mar 3, 2011 21:14:04 GMT -5
T, sounds like you have a good plan all planned out ahead of time. The main thing is that you all have agreed, and that you are comfortable with it, which you are. It may not be a pleasant subject, but it is worth thinking about, and going with your gut feelings on, I think. We have had family members pass away recently also.
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Post by ozarxoffspring on Mar 4, 2011 15:11:45 GMT -5
A good friend of mine is a funeral director. I am not willing to throw that sort of $ his way just to bury my body. I believe that "ashes to ashes" is AOK is the Lord's eyes.I Wisconsin,it is illegal to spread ones ashes about a property according to the law. Well Folks,what they don't know wont hurt them. How many funeral's have you been at where people comment about how the deceased person "looked"? When my Grandmother passed,I was about 10 and very close to her. It was shear torture having to walk up and view her in her casket. People say they need closure? IMHO<,,BS. Remember someone how they were,not how they are,,,,dead. Just my thoughts
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Post by ozarxoffspring on Mar 4, 2011 15:13:49 GMT -5
A good friend of mine is a funeral director. I am not willing to throw that sort of $ his way just to bury my body. I believe that "ashes to ashes" is AOK is the Lord's eyes.I Wisconsin,it is illegal to spread ones ashes about a property according to the law. Well Folks,what they don't know wont hurt them. How many funeral's have you been at where people comment about how the deceased person "looked"? When my Grandmother passed,I was about 10 and very close to her. It was shear torture having to walk up and view her in her casket. People say they need closure? IMHO<,,BS. Remember someone how they were,not how they are,,,,dead. Just my thoughts
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Post by ozarxoffspring on Mar 4, 2011 15:15:20 GMT -5
Great post, orionsoracle! Could NOT agree with you more. Thank you!
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Post by ozark on Mar 10, 2011 12:13:32 GMT -5
Additional emotional and mental punishment doesn't provide closure for me at least. It has been a dozen days since I lost the Angel. Time alone lets us adjust to what amounts to a new lifestyle. I am so glad that I didn't have to appear in public gatherings trying to hold myself together. Now my memories of her are those of a living solemate that was always with me one every subject. Her goal in life was to take care of me and our children. All I can say is that it is getting easier by the day. She would want me to he as happy as possible and for us both I am going to try. Ben
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Post by deadon on Mar 10, 2011 13:43:45 GMT -5
Additional emotional and mental punishment doesn't provide closure for me at least. It has been a dozen days since I lost the Angel. Time alone lets us adjust to what amounts to a new lifestyle. I am so glad that I didn't have to appear in public gatherings trying to hold myself together. Now my memories of her are those of a living solemate that was always with me one every subject. Her goal in life was to take care of me and our children. All I can say is that it is getting easier by the day. She would want me to he as happy as possible and for us both I am going to try. Ben Still prayin for you Ben and your doing great
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