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Post by Rifleman on Dec 17, 2009 17:05:15 GMT -5
Because of Christ I have both physical life and spiritual life. The air I breathe comes from him, the ground I stand on is upheld by His mighty power. By His precious blood I am welcome in heaven. Because of His grace I get to hunt deer and eat them. Because of His grace I can use a smokeless muzzleloader. Dynamite is made up of similar stuff as smokeless powder. When Alfred Nobel came up with dynamite he wanted to give it a name that would describe its power. Dynamo's is a Bible word ( I think greek) that is used to describe the power of God. Mite means little or miniature. He named Dynamite to mean " a little bit of the power of God" So for me it is Merry Christmas, when God said his will toward man was good and He made good on His promise to provide us a Saviour to rescue us from the power and penalty of sin. So Merry Christmas to all my smokeless shooting buds and when you light that rifle off next time, thank God for letting us have smokeless powder! ;D
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Post by craigf on Dec 17, 2009 19:07:54 GMT -5
Rman, you are correct. The word in Greek is dynamo. It means big time unimaginable power. When Paul was writing to people, many of who he had not met yet, he needed a word that they would understand to describe the God's power. So, since he wrote in Greek, he used dynamo because it was the most powerful powerful word available. And thankfully He is that powerful, and more! Merry Christmas to all and those who believe in Christ, remember what we are supposed to be celebrating. For those who do not, this would be a good time to fairly look into the claim that there is a God and his name is Jesus. Merry Christmas!
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Post by midohhntr on Dec 17, 2009 19:32:17 GMT -5
Rman, you are correct. The word in Greek is dynamo. It means big time unimaginable power. When Paul was writing to people, many of who he had not met yet, he needed a word that they would understand to describe the God's power. So, since he wrote in Greek, he used dynamo because it was the most powerful powerful word available. And thankfully He is that powerful, and more! Merry Christmas to all and those who believe in Christ, remember what we are supposed to be celebrating. For those who do not, this would be a good time to fairly look into the claim that there is a God and his name is Jesus. Merry Christmas! Amen to that, by His stripes i am healed!
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Post by sw on Dec 17, 2009 19:38:04 GMT -5
:)Merry Christmas also.
PS Does this mean that it is more scriptural to shoot smokeless vs BP/subs?
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Post by Jon on Dec 17, 2009 20:42:26 GMT -5
SW, So well put. It's good to see people who are still proud to say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays, and remember what it stands for. Merry Christmas to all. Jon
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2009 23:34:31 GMT -5
Rman.. Yes, The Lord Jesus Christ is everything! Well put! The Word became flesh! Zen
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Post by bubba on Dec 18, 2009 9:32:36 GMT -5
Merry Christmas to all !
Dwight, I think that He was absent in Michigan when He was blessing Smokeless shooting with the MZ :-)
-marc
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Post by ozark on Dec 18, 2009 12:55:10 GMT -5
My idea of celebrating Christmas is to do something special for someone keeping my own identy secret. Like finding an unfortunate child and having a bycycle delivered to it without the parents knowing where it came from. Scold me if you wish, but lights, trees, big dinners, Santa Clause and comercialization of the event just doesn't seem to be something Christ would do. I just try to do something special for someone who through no fault of their own are suffering in some manner. Merry Christmas to you all from all of Ozarks folks.
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Post by bubba on Dec 18, 2009 13:02:10 GMT -5
Ozark
I did that one time. A friend of mine was freshly divorced and in the summer time in michigan, living in a pigeon coop. He had two kids at the time, was working but certainly met the def of poor.
I put a crisp $50 in an envelope, with instructions to do something good for someone else when you are back on your feet.
He put up a sign in his office reading: "I WILL"
Later he did a benefit for a battered womans shelter, raised about $3,000 for them.
Pretty good investment the way I see it.
take care Ben
-marc
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Post by bigmoose on Dec 18, 2009 14:26:29 GMT -5
Rifleman,
Sorry that your post was moved, it was in its proper place. If it wasn't for our Christian founding Fathers, we would not have gun rights, so it follows, there wouldn't be a Doug's site. Beyond the religious meaning of Christmas, it is a reason for all men to be of good cheer. So moved or not, I wish all, a very Merry Christmas and a Fine and Healthy New Year. Marty
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Post by ozark on Dec 18, 2009 14:34:46 GMT -5
I wish people wouldn't resent a thread being moved. After all, it isn't a personal thing and moderators have a duty to perform without looking to see who started the thread. I didn't move this one but I agree moving was called for. I am sure that Christ loves the small game hunters, moose hunters and the others the same. Merry CHRISTmas and a Happy New Year to all.
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Post by jeremylong on Dec 18, 2009 15:55:46 GMT -5
Good thread. Merry christmas a little early but I am sure to be on here that day too
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 18, 2009 18:47:17 GMT -5
I don't mind it was moved, matter fact I expected it. I made this post as some have allready surmised as a contrast to the post titled Merry Xmas. You see the world is against Christ and so is Satan. He has fooled people into thinking there is nothing wrong with placing an X where Christ belongs. I would have been very surprised if it was not moved. However the question is now, why is Merry Xmas still in its original place, but the one where Christ was exalted was relegated to a board with a lot less traffic. The other post was of no more merit to be placed on the smokeless board then this one. Make no mistake I am not angry, but I am grieved as to the spiritual blindness of my friends. You see, only by Gods grace do we have anything, including smokeless guns. We deserve hell, every one. To just thank the provider of all is perfectly correct. To show truth is not a sin. I would have let this post stand where ever it was. Think of this. 10 men of all walks of life are in a room. One begins to tell of an exploit involving an illicit affair with a woman. Most of the men hungrily enjoy every word. But one man stands up and tells about how Christ has blessed him. The other men are uncomfortable with this, thinking what a weird duck or this is not the time or place for one to share about "religion". Let me see if I get this straight, the one man tells of a sinful, wicked, act that harmed his own soul and the soul of the woman and men find it OK. The other man tells about the ultimate good and men find it out of place or embarrassing. So who has the skewed viewpoint. Man 1 told of something that he should have been ashamed to speak of, much less brag about. The other man points one and all to the Kind and Gracious Sovereign Creator and others find it to be not acceptable. Oh how are minds are blinded. Let me share this, God is not mocked. Just because He is patient, and merciful and allows men time to repent, men think He is non existent or at the very least uninterested. However to those who refuse His grace and His goodness, the goodness and grace of God which was part of a legitimate offer of reconciliation will then become part of the witness against them in the day of judgement. For example, a Dad loves his son and gives him a new bike out of love. The next day the boy mocks his father and his father hears him. His heart is broken, but being a wise father what will he do? He might say, " I just showed you how much I love you yesterday when I gave you that bike and now you mock me." He would then possibly take away the bike and spank the boy. Rightfully so. The fingers on my keyboard I am allowed to move by the grace of God. I have not always used them in the right manner. But about 2 years ago I finally saw the grace of God in that He paid my penalty for sin on the cross in full and that because of His precious blood alone I am welcome in heaven. I believed on the Lord Jesus Christ. I still sin and am yet to be made perfect. However I do now recognize my heavenly Father as a kind and gracious one who loves me dearly and who I love as well. I have a burden for folks to see the unmerited offer of grace He makes through Christ as well as the fact that our very breath, our very heart beats, are allowed by Him, in spite of the fact we deserve only hell. To replace His precious name with an X, by some who do not consider that only by His very grace they can even see to type, is just something that my burden demands me to call to attention. Oh my friends, please see this very truth, only by the unmerited favor of Christ do we even exist. Lets not leave Him out of the one time of year that in years past has been recognized as the day we celebrate God's unspeakable gift. Emmanuel- God with us...
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Dec 18, 2009 19:23:23 GMT -5
a "Merry Christmas" message followed by a detailed account of smokeless load performance and game tally is a far cry from a message geared at praising a Lord or God...where the primary mesage is just that.
It's a good message for some...a message that gives comfort to some...and a message that may or may not be a message everyone wants to see in the "smokeless" forum. This IS a free country. If someone...who is free to say it....proclaimed that "Allah is great" and is the reason for our ability to shoot smokeless I would also have moved the post.
Yes, this is mainly a Christian membership....but it is also a place where anyone can come to....even a non-Christian. If they want to read about smokeless, that's what they should find when they visit the smokeless forum. Folks who take a high ground...in the name of a religion....do themselves and their beliefs a dis-service in my opinion, by using a certain place as a pulpit to vent their beliefs and are no better then someone venting their beliefs about the lack of religion or God.
Christmas is a great time of year for all to share with their family and friends and to solidify their own belief system. The smokeless forum is not a place to admit sins, proclaim religious beliefs or a place to be used to pursuade people to believe or follow a belief. Common sense.
I assure you that HE understands that all things have there place. So don't be offended at moving a post that was well intended but poorly placed.
Everyone has a lot of respect for the Rifleman here, including me. However, as a moderator, I can not play favorites when making decisions. I can not make decisions based on gender, ethnicity OR religious opinions. I can only move things to their proper place...which I did....and I do not regret it.
This forum, the Chistian forum, is a place to gather these praises and thoughts. If someone thinks they need to do it everywhere they want....WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? No one posts ML topics in the photography forum...ever.
Moderating will bring compliments and also condemnation. Who said it was easy? Who said it was fun? It just takes a no-opinion, play by the rules attitude. That's all.
Have a very merry Christmas (not X-mas) and make my job easy so I don't have to explain myself over stuff like this.
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 18, 2009 19:37:40 GMT -5
Wilms I know the job is not easy, I know been there and done that got the T shirt from riding herd on this board after the Toby debacle. Right or wrong I did it, made some mistakes too, I must admit. However like you said it is a free country. But I ask you, where did your freedom come from? Some may say the blood of patriots, and I would agree. Some may say by the blood of Christ and I would agree as well. However one might consider that IF my world view is correct, then it is not just opinion, it is fact. If it is fact, where does that leave those who think it is not? Does their opinion alter the facts? If we live and breath by the grace of God alone, would not it stand to reason that those who do not recognize this grace are at considerable risk? You are my friend and you do not have to explain yourself to me at all. You must do as your conscience allows and God will judge you, not I. But if I do not speak the truth, then the blood of those who I hold the message back from lays on my head. ( Ezekiel) Consider this, Romans says that the creation is witness to the creator. It goes on to make the case that this is sufficient evidence to condemn those who reject the creator. I did not write that, God did. So one can take the skewed viewpoint that this is all just opinion at there own risk, or one can accept the message of the Bible and realize that it is true. Regardless the unbelief of any alters the facts not at all. The East German border guards defended themselves in court for shooting innocents trying to flee communism as we were just following orders. But there is a higher law and they were convicted. When ever the rules come in conflict with truth, then they are wrong, and those who enforce them are in effect wrong as well. I harbor no ill will that my post was moved, like I said I expected it. But I do disagree that X mas had any more merit to be on the smokeless board then mine. However that is really not what is at question here at all is it?
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Post by sw on Dec 18, 2009 20:46:54 GMT -5
No ill feelings here either, but I feel this is a smokeless post. I learned from this post and likely others did also. The subject of smokeless powder, it's roots, the definition of it's roots, and the comparison or origination from a reference to the power of God is something that wouldn't be applicable to Bp/subs or other boards, IMO. Christians in the early NT days just couldn't keep quiet concerning their Savior, even when tortuous execution or imprisonment was the penalty. Christians today should have the same excitement concerning their savior. Dwight does . Back to the post removal, I feel that if a poster feels that a post belongs in a certain area, that unless it is really obvious that it is in the wrong area, it should be allowed to stay. This post seemed to have it's roots in smokeless and it's root meaning. Again, no hard feelings either. Sometimes we just have differences of opinions.
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Post by ozark on Dec 18, 2009 21:00:15 GMT -5
Most people believes there is an appropriate time and place for everything. Ecclesiastes 3 seems to support that line of thinking. I don't flaunt the fact that I am a born again Christian. To do so would almost be like saying I am better than you are. I think it is wrong to assume that one has the truth and others don't. Some use that assumption to preach at every opportunity. Sometimes in the wrong place. Example: It would not be appropriate to take a job as a school teacher and use the classroom to point out the Grace and Goodness on any particular religion. The sinner is exposed to many different religious beliefs and the various demonations of the Christian faith are many and much divided. This forum has a place to post any Christian subject desired. But, get on there and start teaching Hindo, Islam or any other and you will be chastised quickly. There is a time and a place for everything and now it is time that I shut up. That should bring agreement.
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Post by sw on Dec 18, 2009 21:10:57 GMT -5
There is a time and a place for everything and now it is time that I shut up. That should bring agreement. Ben, Your wisdom and input is always welcome. You've spent a lifetime acquiring it, we're blessed with your sharing of it. We may disagree, but a Merry Christmas greeting and an explanation of the origin of the naming of smokeless powder seems appropriate to me on the smokeless board. Ben, you and your family have a Merry Christmas. If I get my last deer this week, Mary and I are going to take a little trip thru Arkansas, hopefully thru Leslie.
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Post by ozark on Dec 18, 2009 21:32:26 GMT -5
We will always leave the latchstring out for you and your family SW. Are you old enough to ever have used a latch string? I wonder how many forum members know what a latchstring is?
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Post by bubba on Dec 18, 2009 22:29:58 GMT -5
Ben Isnt that something to do with a Bra ?
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Post by ozark on Dec 18, 2009 23:06:26 GMT -5
Bubba, Your comment tells more about your improved health than any doctor could know. And I know that you know what a latchstring is. Glad to know you are preparing yourself mentally for future projects.
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 19, 2009 5:37:07 GMT -5
Well guys an interesting discussion. Obviously I do not agree on all points with everyone, which is expected by all of course. However I do believe my objective was accomplished, and that is to make a point the X is not Christ, and to get folks to think. Obviously there has been some thinkin goin one, which is a good thing. I think I will let it rest for now and possibly in the future we can discuss some of these points in more detail. Wilms, Bubba, Steve, and Ben, you guys have a great time with your families this Christmas! Dwight
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Dec 19, 2009 5:43:46 GMT -5
As far back as I can remember, everytime we would visit my Grandmother, she would fall asleep reading the old bible by her bed. The last 20 years of her life brought her to church for weddings and funerals only....two of which were her sons...my uncles. Many times I would gently lift her reading glasses off her head and put her bible on the nightstand.
There was never a question in my mind where her soul was and what she believed in. My Mom is the same in many ways. And some of you may find this funny and some may find this against your grain....but I will tell you this: Their lack of preaching to me...their lack of telling me what I should think or believe.....their example of how they held their beliefs and practiced what they preached....have went further then anyone else because they have shown and led by example. Their actions have proked more inner thought by me, about my own beliefs...then any preacher or other "loudly" Christian person.
Luckily we do not have executions over religion anymore. Luckily we have freedoms most do not have.
And Ben, my good friend has a latch string in his backyard for his gate.
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Post by corvair on Dec 21, 2009 7:38:36 GMT -5
There is but one God and one son of God-Jesus. Jesus walked this earth as a man and tought the unbelievers.
When Jesus died upon that cross for OUR sins, he did it for all, from that time forward into eternity. Jesus rose from the dead it is a documented fact. That is what seperates Jesus from being a mere prophet.
Jesus is the Christ, the son of God!
Merry Christmas to all.
p.s. Thank you Dwight for the remarkable insight into our smokeless sport. Love you man.
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Post by dougedwards on Dec 21, 2009 17:10:11 GMT -5
There will come a time when all will agree........every head will bow and every mouth will confess in unison. That day is not now but just as little children look forward to Christmas we who know and love Christ anticipate his glorious coming.
Doug
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Post by basspastor on Dec 21, 2009 20:35:00 GMT -5
I think it is an Amazing Merry Christmas. Amazing Grace caused God to send His Son to this earth as a Savior for all mankind.
Blessings Gerald
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Post by ET on Dec 22, 2009 23:11:49 GMT -5
Merry Christmas and Safe & Happy holidays.
Many do not realize the true meaning of Christmas with all the commercialization attached to it. In a way I feel sorry for them that they are blinded by this and feel they need to spend a lot of money and go into debt to buy happiness for others.
It is my hope that Christ's light shines brightly in all us believers and helps to lift that blindfold on others to allow the true meaning of Christmas to reveal itself.
Ed
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