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Post by youp50 on Feb 2, 2009 8:14:52 GMT -5
Georgia did a study with trained deer dogs and radio collared deer. Deer would heard up and run together , then split up. The dogs would follow one. The deer would then herd up and run together and split. The dogs nearly always took a different deer. The deer would repeat this.
My experience chasing deer with dogs is different. Any houndman that says he has no experience chasing deer probably never trained his own dogs. I have found the deer to make a swing to make sure they are being chased and head out to the rivers.
In the winter there are few open rivers. Deer that get driven out of the yards are highly stressed. The yards offer several things maybe the most important for predator escape is the trail system the deer keep open.
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Post by huntingmike on Mar 8, 2009 23:36:17 GMT -5
Twice I have seen a pair of coyotes hunting in pairs. I am very sure both times happened in December. It was in different parts of our state of Tennessee about 10 years apart. The first time I saw this, a coyote came down a brushy draw. I think he was trying to scare something out of the cover as he was darting in and out of it quickly and loudly. I looked across the draw and another coyote was quietly slipping ahead of the first one. The first thing I thought of was they were hunting together.
The second time I had just shot a deer about 250 yards away. I let it lay about 30 minutes thinking a second deer would come to the picked corn field. I looked up to the sky line of a large hill that was open and saw a coyote. I was thinking of taking a long shot if the coyote came across the sky line so I would have a safe shot. I did not have to wait as the coyote came charging down the hill to my deer !! I shot him at 250 yards as he grabbed my deer's back leg. I thought what about that. I quickly saw movement up the hill again as another coyote came into view. It did not stop and came directly to my deer and first coyote at a run. I shot it at 250 yards while it also grabbed a hold of my deer. I was amazed. The coyotes came over the hill of a pasture field. I know there was no cover for a den. My conclusion was that they also had been hunting as a pack. In those days it was rare to even see a coyote. I wish there had been a camera handy as it was a rare thing to shoot a deer and two coyotes within 31 minutes.
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Post by northny on Mar 9, 2009 14:38:35 GMT -5
My opinion hunting in St Lawrence County, NY (near the seaway).
I often see family units hunt together (last fall group of five was common until we shot them down)
I often hear several coyotes at the same time in the evening. Some may be together, but I have heard them in three or more directions from where I am in the woods at dusk routinely.
I do believe they prey upon fawns in spring. My only evidence are small deer houves in coyote scat. See it far too often
They will certainly take (kill) small dogs and cats. My BIL spent a lot of time killing coyotes in the mid hudson valley. Did a favor for one farmer, who told another, who then told another...which lead to a lot of invitations to come to farms and reduce the number of coyotes. He killed well over 100 one year. His surefire method of calling them in? Go to a toy store, buy the cute little stuffed black puppy dog with the red collar. (with or without the bell). Set it out in a field and make wimpering puppy sounds. Get ready to shoot, as they will coming racing each other for a "free meal"
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