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Post by eagleeye on Jun 28, 2019 15:25:58 GMT -5
Hey everyone! New to the custom world of muzzle loaders. Have had a stock savage 10 II for about 10 plus years. Mostly just sighted in and hunted with it. Just bought a rem700 with a 45 cal brux barrel. All parts from arrowhead. A different guy owned it for about a year then sold it to me. Thinking of starting out shooting .40 cal 200 sst with some H 4198. Not sure what sabots yet. Anyways looks like lots of good reading on here.
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Post by Dunthat on Jun 28, 2019 16:19:48 GMT -5
Welcome...
When I shot sabots in my 45's I used Harvester Blue Crushed Rib sabot with 60-62 gns H4198...This combo worked well with the 200gn SST or the 195gn Barnes Expanders...Good luck with your new gun.
Zen
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Post by BuckDoeHunter on Jun 28, 2019 16:52:40 GMT -5
Congrats on the rifle, any pics?
My Rem 700ML with a Brux barrel shot sabots ok but not stellar like my McGowen barrel did. I used Harvester blue sabots, you could try the sabots that come with the 200 gr SST but those produced keyholes for me.
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Post by Dunthat on Jun 28, 2019 17:12:31 GMT -5
Congrats on the rifle, any pics? My Rem 700ML with a Brux barrel shot sabots ok but not stellar like my McGowen barrel did. I used Harvester blue sabots, you could try the sabots that come with the 200 gr SST but those produced keyholes for me. Agree.. I've owned a few Brux 45's and none of them shot sabots as well as the couple of Pac-nor's did...I think it is because the Brux has 6 lands and the Pac-Nor has 8... Your Brux is an excellent sabotless shooter...might want to go that route... |
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Post by eagleeye on Jun 28, 2019 21:04:22 GMT -5
I do plan on getting to shooting sabot less but just don't feel like I know enough about it yet. I also don't have a sizing die yet. When shooting sabot less do you ever have to worry about bullet movement once in the barrel while hunting ect?
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Post by eagleeye on Jun 28, 2019 21:27:09 GMT -5
I guess you would just size it to fit tighter if worried about movement while hunting.
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Post by Dunthat on Jun 28, 2019 22:44:46 GMT -5
I do plan on getting to shooting sabot less but just don't feel like I know enough about it yet. I also don't have a sizing die yet. When shooting sabot less do you ever have to worry about bullet movement once in the barrel while hunting ect? No worry about bullet slipping...Size them to a snug fit and your good to go...You won't have any problem getting up to speed when sizing...The benefits of going sabotless are well worth it...first step is getting a swinglock adjustable smoothform die... another good thing is that there are lots of 45 cal bullets to choose from making way for a lot more different combinations of powders etc....there are plenty of us who would be willing to help you get started in the right direction if you go that route...Good luck |
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Post by Dunthat on Jun 28, 2019 22:54:45 GMT -5
Eagleeye...
Check your messages...PM's
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Post by dannoboone on Jun 29, 2019 11:53:22 GMT -5
Something to consider when shooting sabots: with smokeless, your
barrel needs to cool down between shots. A second shot may not
hurt accuracy, but from there on, the heat in the barrel will
soften the sabots and accuracy will suffer.
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Post by lindauer on Jun 29, 2019 19:28:53 GMT -5
if you shoot the 195 barnes they mat need to be knurled. they had to in my 45 brux. it helped with an ocassional 6 to 12 in flyer.. i knurled my 195 barnes. to .401. i didnt have to knurl the sst. i also used harvestor light blue sabot. here indiana you need a .357 or larger for muzzloader. just make sure you are leagal with a .40 bullet
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Post by timbertom on Jun 30, 2019 18:35:27 GMT -5
Hey everyone! New to the custom world of muzzle loaders. Have had a stock savage 10 II for about 10 plus years. Mostly just sighted in and hunted with it. Just bought a rem700 with a 45 cal brux barrel. All parts from arrowhead. A different guy owned it for about a year then sold it to me. Thinking of starting out shooting .40 cal 200 sst with some H 4198. Not sure what sabots yet. Anyways looks like lots of good reading on here. good to see you on the board mark.been here for a few years. This is the site to get all the info you looking for and lots of great guys giving awesome advise Tom. |
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Post by catman on Jun 30, 2019 20:44:37 GMT -5
one bullet type you all may be interested in is a paperpatched lead bullet. they go down the barrel easy are very accurate and dont mind a warm or hot barrel. a lot easier to shoot than sabots.
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Post by eagleeye on Jul 4, 2019 22:15:42 GMT -5
Thanks again for everyone's help so far. Just waiting on my sizing die to show up from arrowhead and ill be shooting.
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Post by eagleeye on Jul 4, 2019 22:17:12 GMT -5
Planning on using 4198 a veg wad and a 300 gr fury star tip.
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Post by smokepolehall on Jul 5, 2019 9:24:25 GMT -5
Them be good bullets n wads
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