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Post by floormat1957 on Jan 31, 2018 12:46:54 GMT -5
Last nights State of the Union was a disgrace. The Democrats acted like spoiled third graders. Maybe I'm fooling myself but I never remember the Republican party ever showing a total lack of disrespect toward Obama in State of the Union speeches. They are setting a great example to our future generations about working with and getting along with others. Can't have their way so they're sitting there pouting like little children. What an embarrassment?
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Post by ourway77 on Jan 31, 2018 13:52:28 GMT -5
I agree it was a disgrace I hope the American public sees this and again vote Republican
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Post by edge on Jan 31, 2018 15:24:53 GMT -5
I just want to hear Pelosi explain to the voters that greater take home pay is a bad thing Calling the $1,000 bonuses as "Crumbs", she sounded like Romney with his "I'll bet you $10,000" during the Primary. Funny how the media gave Perlosi a pass, and not Romney. edge.
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Post by lwh723 on Feb 1, 2018 8:45:12 GMT -5
I think the most exciting thing for me is how fast things have been improved. Don't get me wrong, there's still a lot of things that are broken and need fixed. But in the past I've been guilty of thinking we've gone down a slippery slope from which we can never recover.
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Post by dannoboone on Feb 1, 2018 12:14:53 GMT -5
I agree it was a disgrace I hope the American public sees this and again vote Republican Sadly, the people who vote these people in get their "news" from sources such as CNN, MSNBC, NYT, CBS, etc. Fox shows last night did a few cuts from CNN & MSNBC during which those evil nut cases were depicting the speech in every negative way possible. Most of their voters do not have a long attention span, so they just go by what their "news" propagandists tell them. From dividedstatesdotcom: "In September 2009, Obama’s green czar Van Jones resigned after it was reported that he was a self described “communist” and had blamed George W. Bush for the September 11 attacks." But it wasn't long before CNN rewarded him with a job in which he is doing even more harm now than he ever could from the White House. People (sheeple) actually believe the political poison that comes from his mouth. I hope and pray that enough swing-voting independents get persuaded to go to the polls and vote the right way this fall. Perhaps the economy will be roaring along and some smart politicizing will scare them into thinking they will never want to return to the economic situation we had during the "this is the new norm" Obama years.
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Post by edge on Feb 1, 2018 12:48:41 GMT -5
Your Racist, Bigoted CNN buddy Van Jones called the election a White Lash!
Could you imagine a white commentator calling the 2008 election a Black Lash, and still having a job? Unbelievable!
edge.
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Post by petev on Feb 1, 2018 18:02:09 GMT -5
I've been off this site quite a bit, but taking a look at these posts, and in this f'd up times, it's great to see the commonsense comments here. I think Donald Trump has done a lot of good so far. The whining liberals will never be satisfied.
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Post by Dave W on Feb 1, 2018 20:20:40 GMT -5
I agree it was a disgrace I hope the American public sees this and again vote Republican Sadly, the people who vote these people in get their "news" from sources such as CNN, MSNBC, NYT, CBS, etc. Fox shows last night did a few cuts from CNN & MSNBC during which those evil nut cases were depicting the speech in every negative way possible. Most of their voters do not have a long attention span, so they just go by what their "news" propagandists tell them. From dividedstatesdotcom: "In September 2009, Obama’s green czar Van Jones resigned after it was reported that he was a self described “communist” and had blamed George W. Bush for the September 11 attacks." But it wasn't long before CNN rewarded him with a job in which he is doing even more harm now than he ever could from the White House. People (sheeple) actually believe the political poison that comes from his mouth. I hope and pray that enough swing-voting independents get persuaded to go to the polls and vote the right way this fall. Perhaps the economy will be roaring along and some smart politicizing will scare them into thinking they will never want to return to the economic situation we had during the "this is the new norm" Obama years. Had completely forgotten about the "new normal" Obama GDP numbers, good catch. Don't you love how they left is trying to claim the growing economy is all due to Obama? Unemployment had dropped when he left but not to this extent and forecasters are saying it might get as low as 3.5% before years end. Obama had no problem blaming Bush for his dismal economic recovery but now they want to give him credit for the boom. Just laughable.
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Post by 1coyotemaster on Feb 4, 2018 11:49:15 GMT -5
Your Racist, Bigoted CNN buddy Van Jones called the election a White Lash! Could you imagine a white commentator calling the 2008 election a Black Lash, and still having a job? Unbelievable! edge. What's even funnier regarding the media commentators is listening now to all the excuses why the memo is just a conservative plot to blemish Muellers investigation--disregarding that it was based on a dossier funded by Clinton. Wow "forest for the trees" kind of thing. I truly believe that there are a number of commentators/journalists who are CIA plants--Jones included-- it's evident when you listen in and see them plotting and thinking 3 questions ahead. If you don't think the press is an extension of the Global agenda you're missing the bigger picture. Oddly the black caucus couldn't even rise when Trump mentioned that the black unemployment rate was at it's lowest levels- I guess their constituents don't need jobs?
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Post by eml9 on Feb 4, 2018 16:30:24 GMT -5
The black unemployment rate being low isn't looked at as a positive thing for them they want everything handed to them and live on welfare their whole lives . The vast majority DO NOT want to work . I see it everyday
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Post by edge on Feb 4, 2018 17:59:33 GMT -5
I don't agree that they don't want to work!
Many low income people, regardless of race can earn the equivalent pay from not working. I bet most middle class workers would choose to not work if the government gave them 100K, with the stipulation that they could not work another job!
I would bet that only about 10% of Americans would choose work over an equivalent amount of their jobs from the government!
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Post by eml9 on Feb 4, 2018 19:39:39 GMT -5
Yea that's what I'm saying they do not want to work cause the government offers them a free ride .. how about going and getting into a trade starting at the bottom making next to nothing and learning the trade and working your way up like I did and millions of other Americans.
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Post by tar12 on Feb 4, 2018 19:46:15 GMT -5
The Dimwits are even pissing off those within their own ranks...it appears they cant dig that hole fast enough! Keep on digging boys!
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Post by gunny on Feb 5, 2018 19:52:21 GMT -5
Let me get this straight you think the Dems are being disrespectful to Trump? So when trump,s campaign promise is broke that means nothing? We are going to build a boarder wall and Mexico is going to pay for it? Or did people forget that was a key point of his campaign.Will trump take responsibility for the 1000 point loss in the stock market today ? He claims the only reason its doing so well is because of him .The fiscally conservative government is set to borrow a trillion dollars this year, that is up 84% from last year! And the wonderful tax plan ,a small percentage of companies will pass along any bonus to their employee,s . The rest will get a pittance, or if you work for Mead corp 5000 will loose their jobs,or where im at 76 employees and 15 salaried have lost their jobs as of Jan 15. Another campaign promise of bringing jobs back broken . If the Dems are so bad then maybe people ought to think what they have fought for and achieved,you can google it ,its there for all to see, how many of us have benefitted from Social Security?Public schools,a 40 hour work week,the internet,the family Medical leave act,the GI bill and many ,many more. Anyone receive any of those benefits, you can thank a Democrat.
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Post by edge on Feb 6, 2018 3:18:05 GMT -5
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor LIE, took over 1/5 of our economy!
Oh, Obama PROMISED that EVERY BILL he would sign into law he would put up on the Internet for 5 days BEFORE he would sign it!
HE BROKE THAT ON THE VERY FIRST BILL THAT CAME TO HIM!!
LILLY LEDBETTER: Passed the House of Representatives on January 27, 2009 Signed into law by President Barack Obama on January 29, 2009
Where are the 5 days, and he never did it in 8 years!
At the end of the term you can say what Trump did, after barely a year is RIDICULOUS!
Obamacare was not signed into law until 2010, and some provisions did not kick in until 2016
"But in percentage terms...The Dow's 4.6% loss on Monday was the worst since August 2011. But it didn't even crack the top-20 of all-time losses. It was just the 25th worst loss since 1960.
The Dow's biggest one-day percentage loss was the 22.6% Black Monday crash on Oct. 19, 1987. In point terms, that was "only" 508 points. In second place, the Dow crashed 12.8% on Oct. 28, 1929. The blue-chip index retreated just 38 points that day."
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Post by gunny on Feb 6, 2018 6:29:36 GMT -5
All you have to do do is google campaign promises kept and broken by each president the results are there. I think its a fair assessment of the trend . You can wait till the end of his term, i will not.
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Post by edge on Feb 6, 2018 8:32:38 GMT -5
Now that makes a lot of sense!
Iguess you got skunked this coming fall hunting too...just because you haven't gone yet is no excuse for you...right?
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Post by gunny on Feb 6, 2018 12:09:10 GMT -5
Did the GOP wait for Obama’s terms to end before they obstructed him at every turn , Did not Mitch McConnel state perfectly clear that was his sole job , to try and stop him at all costs ?
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Post by dannoboone on Feb 6, 2018 12:15:23 GMT -5
Apparently it's fair to compare promises kept or broken in an eight year period for a democRAT to one year for a Republican. Obummer blamed "W" for anything going south for well into his 2d term. All things being equal, we could blame Berry Hussein for anything going negative for the next 5-6 years.
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Post by edge on Feb 6, 2018 12:19:32 GMT -5
Did not Obama state many times "that elections have consequences"? Didn't he also say that the Republicans can come along for the ride, but they have to sit in the back?
Now, since you want Trump to, and I would say ridiculously, take the blame for every day to day movement in the stock market, I AM SURE that you must be giving him credit for the 6,000 point gain since his election...RIGHT?
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Post by dannoboone on Feb 6, 2018 12:32:14 GMT -5
Did the GOP wait for Obama’s terms to end before they obstructed him at every turn , Did not Mitch McConnel state perfectly clear that was his sole job , to try and stop him at all costs ? Perhaps you are not familiar with the fable "The Goose That Laid the Golden Egg". The destruction of the goose is what the Republicans attempted to stop. Trump's DE-regulation agenda stopped the starvation of the goose, but for total success, there's a loooong way to go. But to get a brain-washed lemming to understand such common sense..... let's see......where's that brick wall I can pound my head against??
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Post by gunny on Feb 6, 2018 16:41:48 GMT -5
Now wait a minute Edge those were trumps OWN words about taking responsibility for all the gains in the stock market ,he can,t brag enough of his purported accomplishments.I would have to give credit to Obama for getting the country out of a recession which was on President Bush,s watch.I did not hear Bush complain Democrats were treasonous after not applauding his State of the Union speech ! So its come down to this now you better clap or your labeled a traitor?? I could imagine that happening in 1941 Germany , but not today.
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Post by edge on Feb 7, 2018 7:01:22 GMT -5
STOP with the Nazi comparisons...I am done with that silliness!
How many Democrats have labelled Trump and his family treasonous, and Trump was obviously joking if you watched it.
YOU asked if Trump gets the blame for the drop, so you must accept that he gets the credit too, RIGHT?
Trump removed many executive orders standing in the way of business eliminated Obamacare mandate, Keystone XL, ANWAR, Tax Cuts, Tax repatriations, cut 22 regulations for every new one added.
These ARE business friendly, not anti-business like most of Obama's
Please explain what Obama did to promote business?
By the way gunny, was Obama responsible for GM and Chrysler BOTH GOING BANKRUPT?
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Post by gunny on Feb 8, 2018 6:14:04 GMT -5
Edge ,Steve Bannon ,called them treasonous !Some of those treasonous Democrats served their country honorably for multiple tours of duty and do not take that word lightly.
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Post by edge on Feb 8, 2018 8:59:27 GMT -5
Edge ,Steve Bannon ,called them treasonous !Some of those treasonous Democrats served their country honorably for multiple tours of duty and do not take that word lightly. Ah, that Great Legal Scholar Steve Bannon, yes I hear he is often quoted at most of the most prestigious Law Schools IMO, when people use the words Treason, or compare someone the Hitler, or Nazi like, they have lost the argument! edge. PS As an aside, I did have an ancestor, fighting for America at the Fort Griswold massacre...with their attackers being led by a true traitor Benedict Arnold.
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Post by ourway77 on Feb 10, 2018 14:49:37 GMT -5
Liberals will not even listen too reason you are just fighting a loosing battle you know they are always right. I won't be here much longer but I feel sorry for those who have to live this F.U.B.A.R. country you only have to listen to the shummer, pelosy and Weinstein prime examples of liberal mentality
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Post by floormat1957 on Feb 15, 2018 16:53:53 GMT -5
Just Curious gunny and maybe you have the answer to this. Trump wants to borrow one trillion dollars. And I agree that is a huge sum of money. But how many Trillion did Obama put us in debt? I don't remember the exact figure and I was hoping you could remind us. Oh wait, I found it nine Trillion Dollars to 19.97 Trillion Dollars depending on your source. So maybe if we weren't so far in debt Trump wouldn't be asking for one trillion dollars.
And yes the Democrats have fought for workers rights etc. but also please remember the Democrats had a few faults that I can think of over the years. Lets see they were instrumental in forming the KKK, Jim Crowe Laws and voting against equal rights. They wanted to keep minorities in their place which was poor. The Republicans have tried to make it so everyone that wants to work can try and better themselves. But the Democrats want them beholden to the government. They want to pay folks not to work so they will get their vote each election. 1.8 million ILLEGAL aliens would mean 1.8 million more votes. Sure if the Democrats have their way they can immediately become legal without going through the legal process that many of our ancestors have gone through.
And I d**n sure think that if the Republicans were fighting for illegal aliens the Democrats would be building a wall.
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