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Post by carbide808 on Oct 3, 2017 12:30:28 GMT -5
Hello all!
I'm new to the forum, but not new to shooting or muzzle loading (black powder anyway...) I have an old 700ML that has a bad barrel I've been wanting to fix for a long time. I've been lurking here, trying to gather some info on the best route to go, but that only gets you so far. I thought maybe it was time for some interaction!
I've been mostly shooting hand guns for the past few years. I have done a little precision shooting out to 600 yds with a .308 I built (read assembled i suppose) and a little target transition stuff with an AR just for fun.
Recently my father in law started asking me to do some deer hunting with him; that got me itching to do something with my old ML again... So, here I am!
Bob (in central Iowa)
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 4, 2017 9:26:25 GMT -5
Welcome to the board, Bob in Central Iowa. I'm almost "central" between Cedar Rapids and Waterloo.
Luke (lwh723) has everything ya need to upgrade that sparky, smokey ol' muzzle loader to CF performance and accuracy. I've done a couple, and it makes totally different rifles out of something not so desirable.
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Post by carbide808 on Oct 4, 2017 12:35:49 GMT -5
Thank you sir! I'm central like, in Des Moines. I wouldn't mind getting out of the city someday. Hopefully on a property you can't see or hear neighbors I'm looking forward to making something useful out of that old boom stick! I might even try my hand at truing up the receiver while I have it apart. I'm working as a machinist/engineer/draftsman so I have access to a gun lathe and some cnc stuff
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Post by ragsflh on Oct 5, 2017 10:03:52 GMT -5
welcome aboard
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 5, 2017 12:23:25 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to making something useful out of that old boom stick! I might even try my hand at truing up the receiver while I have it apart. I'm working as a machinist/engineer/draftsman so I have access to a gun lathe and some cnc stuff You may very well need that gun lathe and your expertise to get that barrel off. Luke had a heck of a time to get the barrel off of my blued 700ml, but it finally broke loose. Last winter, my gunsmith replaced a barrel on a Rem 788 for me and had to cut the threads out of the action. Remmies are bad about that.
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Post by carbide808 on Oct 6, 2017 12:11:53 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to making something useful out of that old boom stick! I might even try my hand at truing up the receiver while I have it apart. I'm working as a machinist/engineer/draftsman so I have access to a gun lathe and some cnc stuff You may very well need that gun lathe and your expertise to get that barrel off. Luke had a heck of a time to get the barrel off of my blued 700ml, but it finally broke loose. Last winter, my gunsmith replaced a barrel on a Rem 788 for me and had to cut the threads out of the action. Remmies are bad about that. Oh, man! I don't like the sound of that! I wonder if you could heat the assembly in an oven to 300 degrees or so to loosen it up? I'll have to do some reading on that one!
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 6, 2017 14:03:03 GMT -5
That one statement about the 788 is a little misleading. First, he cut off the barrel, then opened the remaining inside the action, and ended up by cutting the BARREL threads away from the receiver threads.
For the week prior to that, I had the action/barrel in a vice with the muzzle pointed toward the floor. Two types of homemade penetrating oil (50/50 ATF/acetone and 50/50 Kroil/acetone) were dripped into where barrel threads/action threads meet inside the receiver, then hit with a heat gun. This was done a couple times a day, but it just wasn't enough penetration to get down through all the threads. But perhaps it may work with your 700ml.
Good luck!
P.S. Whoops! Just noticed in your other thread that the 700ml is stainless. Perhaps corrosion isn't as bad in SS as it would be with 4140. I would still try a penetrating oil soak, though, since water may have set in it. Also, the front action screw on some of them was a little long and it may have flattened the threads, making barrel removal that much more difficult. In my SS 700ml, I was able to get most of that out with a sharp Dremel attachment.
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Post by carbide808 on Oct 10, 2017 8:22:58 GMT -5
I did some research on removing the old barrel. Looks like you can cut it with a parting tool just forward of the recoil lug to relieve the tension on the threads. As long as the barrel is useless anyway! Still looks like I'm going to be building a barrel vise and a receiver wrench. I've also been kicking around the notion of hunting with it this year as a smoker. It still functions, and at the distances I will be at this year I think I could hold 1/2 MOD (minute of deer)
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Post by yule on Oct 15, 2017 3:42:56 GMT -5
Glad to have you. Everyone needs one of these habits!
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Post by nick50471 on Oct 24, 2017 17:15:12 GMT -5
Welcome from another Iowan
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Post by ragsflh on Nov 4, 2017 12:51:57 GMT -5
howdy
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