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Post by tar12 on Jan 22, 2009 0:51:27 GMT -5
The days of free casting hounds gets ever closer to being a thing of the past. Its sad but true.sprawling urban development dictates this.I do not like it,but thats the way it is unfortunatley.Between the urban sprawl and people building in every wood lot, I decided to quit hunting hounds.BUT,I have found a way to still enjoy the sport I love the most.It calls for a dog that will not blast through the country when turned loose.I also wanted a dog that was silent on track and very obedient unlike some hard headed hounds. I have found that it in a young Ladner Blackmouth Cur named Boog.I have been hunting him in some very adverse conditions this past week and he has been showing me real live coons on the outside.As Ben can attest,this is impressive for a young dog as some "seasoned" hounds "slick tree" a lot in these conditions.I am not easily impressed concerning dogs,but this one impresses me! We made 3 drops with him this evening.First tree was a den with the coon spotted.2nd and 3rd tree we shot the coons out to him.Following is pic of Boog,my son and about a 22 lb boar coon.  |
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Post by youp50 on Jan 22, 2009 4:13:17 GMT -5
I have heard many good things about the Ladner bred Blackmouth Curs. I am happy you guys got a good one. Does he catch squirrels too?
;)Be careful or Q will quit wrestling to have more time in the woods.
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Post by ozark on Jan 22, 2009 9:30:29 GMT -5
Slick trees? That tar12 occurs only when using real fast dogs that beats the coon to the trees. Nice looking dog. I know how difficult it is for you to get out of the great sport of coonhunting. But you are doing right in just altering from the traditional a little. Ben
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Post by tar12 on Jan 22, 2009 11:48:43 GMT -5
Youp,
Everything you have heard about them is true.You will have to get you one!They are very intelligent and easy to train.There is really no traiinng to it as they take to the squirrel and coon game very easily.You just have to take them to the woods.This is the 3rd Ladner I have had.The first 2 were pups that I trained by themselves.The dog pictured had been exposed to coon only until I took him out the day following the real bitter weather spell we had.We got out of the truck and I saw a squirrel dive into a nest.That tree, so happens, had a wild grape vine running up in it.I had 'Q" hold the dog while I shook the vine.Boog was all ears and eyes at this point!That squirrel came bailing out and Boog went nuts!"Q" cut him loose and that dog timbered that squirrel like a old pro!He treed hard on that squirrel.Unfortunatley the squirrel made it to a den.This dog has brought us so much happiness in the short time he has been here.The kids walk in the door and want to know if they can go to the woods just about everyday.What more could a guy ask for to keep them out of trouble?I have found out that these dogs are extremely protective of the home front.Boog will not let any stranger approach until I tell him its ok.He will not back up period until told to do so.As far as "Q" goes,he is all business concerning wrestling.Thats a big part of the reason I got this dog, time constraints.If we want to go hunting for 5 min or 2 hours,no problem.Just call him and here he comes.He does not need a leash.Open the door and tell him to load.He listens much better than the kids! ;D I pointed that out to them! ;D
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Post by jims on Jan 22, 2009 16:49:10 GMT -5
Sounds like a fine dog.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 23, 2009 5:42:10 GMT -5
I have thought about getting a pair of them. If I could get them started on bear I doubt there would be many that got away. The silent or semi trailing would blast them on a bear and confuse him, before he knew what hit him he would be in a tree. The only thing is I would miss the race.
I have been with men that brought them up here to squirrel hunt. They were impressive tree dogs. Problem is twofold. Our gray squirrel population is very migratory and cannot be counted on from year to year. The other is from their conclusion that our squirrels are hunted by fishers and are seldom treed on the outside.
They will catch coons. Our coons are quite large, like forty pounds plus for a good boar. They are push overs for a dog, compared to coon populations that are hunted harder.
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Post by edge on Jan 23, 2009 9:25:28 GMT -5
Good lookin dog, how old is he?
edge.
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Post by tar12 on Jan 23, 2009 21:51:39 GMT -5
Good lookin dog, how old is he? edge. He is 20 months old.This particular breed looks older than they actually are due to the white or grey around the muzzle area.They have this as puppies.Some have this as puppies and some do not.Most have the black muzzle,there again some do not. |
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Post by tar12 on Jan 23, 2009 22:17:31 GMT -5
Youp,
You do not know how bad I miss hearing a hound run track.There is a mixed blessing here tho..It actually takes a hound longer to tree a coon than a cur due to the fact that the cur are silent on track.To the south of me a guy has a pair of curs.He flat puts the hurts on the coon population there.He routinely takes 250-300 coon a season with his dogs.They are stone silent veterans that catch a lot of coon on the ground.They have a lot of battle scars to prove it! I made a less then ideal shot on the coon pictured and he hit the ground with a lot of fight left in him.Most dogs will booger bark and circle looking for a opening,not psycho Boog!He had that coon nailed quick.I have not seen a faster kill dog.This ole boy is packing a serious pair.The courage of these Ladner dogs is incredible!They have no reverse gear.I feel they would have to be killed to back them off.I had a conversation with a guy who hunted his on bear.His only concern was that they were going to get killed because they were so aggressive on bear.I talked to him recently and they are still alive and have been on 23 bear to date.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 24, 2009 9:39:06 GMT -5
Here is a irrefutable statement regarding bear dogs. "There are few young bold bear dogs and no old bold ones"
The ability of a pack to fight a bear is what keeps the dogs from getting hurt badly, provided that all will fight. The best fight I ever saw was a 200 pounder came down and tried to run when I got to the tree. Three dogs there a Black and tan cross locked on the the rear of the bear. The Plott took his place under the bear and was getting his butt kicked. The Black and tan/ Blue cross came flying in, four feet off the ground, grabbed the bear by the side of the head and hung on. She did a complete 180 and still held on as her mass bull dogged that bears head 'Q' style. The bear shot up the nearest tree, urinating on the way up. The B&T cross lost hold, the B&T/Blue slipped off as the bears head twisted and the Plott got up and had the bear by the butt and hung on for 10 feet up the tree. Total elapsed time less than 5 seconds.
As long as that man's pair hit the bear at the same time they stand a good chance. They get split up and on the wrong bear it could be bad for them.
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Post by jims on Jan 24, 2009 10:11:21 GMT -5
Youp50: They have a similar saying about bold pilots.
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Post by fowlplay on Jan 24, 2009 11:18:58 GMT -5
That is fine looking dog.
The urban sprawl has been so bad here on the east coast that I don't think we are even allowed to say "coon hunting" any more. ;D
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Post by boarhog on Aug 9, 2009 0:03:47 GMT -5
So glad I live in Arkansas! fab looking dog. I've never heard of that type hound. A couple of guys in our club have mountain curs they use mostly for squirrel but some coon also. I have never been coon hunting, but would love to try it sometime. I love to hear dogs run. Our club doesn't have any deer dogs nowdays. That's a shame.
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Post by tar12 on Aug 10, 2009 4:24:27 GMT -5
So glad I live in Arkansas! fab looking dog. I've never heard of that type hound. A couple of guys in our club have mountain curs they use mostly for squirrel but some coon also. I have never been coon hunting, but would love to try it sometime. I love to hear dogs run. Our club doesn't have any deer dogs nowdays. That's a shame. Boar, Dont do it! Its worse than Savagitis!You will lose sleep over this passion! ;D |
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