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Post by norseman1 on Nov 24, 2015 20:58:26 GMT -5
It is hard for me to understand why my bore gets so dirty from smokeless powder.Are the primers dirty?I use federal 209As with H4831 powder.Thanks,norseman1
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Post by moto357 on Nov 24, 2015 21:31:16 GMT -5
I've never used that powder for anything so I can't say if it's a "dirty" powder. For example I find 5744 dirtier than most other's I've used, but this is relatively speaking. As far as primers, yes they are dirty, but there's such a small amount it shouldn't make much of any difference in the barrel...ever shot shotguns? A few years back I finally ran out of my win209's and bought 5 or 6 boxes of federal 209a's just because they are hotter. With less than one pack shot up I went back to win209's because the federals were so much dirtier in my breech plugs. Can't say I've seen a difference in the barrel though
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 25, 2015 9:04:02 GMT -5
You do seem to get more carbon, or maybe faster carbon build-up, in the breechplug when using 209As.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 9:39:46 GMT -5
What bullet are you shooting with h4831 and how big of a charge?
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Post by rangeball on Nov 25, 2015 10:07:06 GMT -5
You do seem to get more carbon, or maybe faster carbon build-up, in the breechplug when using 209As. Makes sense since it was designed to sit just under a column of powder and send a bunch of hot material up into it. We're trying to force it through a very small hole, relatively. |
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Post by norseman1 on Nov 25, 2015 10:47:18 GMT -5
What bullet are you shooting with h4831 and how big of a charge? 55 grains.A 250 grain SST smooth sized in one.Knurled in the other.A Encore with a M 26" 458 MGM barrel and a Ultimate Handi Rifle with a 24" barrel. |
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Post by edge on Nov 25, 2015 10:55:56 GMT -5
H4831 ??
I'm surprised you get ignition with that light of a load!!
If you're sure it is 4831 that is probably a dirty load due to low pressure.
edge.
FYI Quickload predicts that less than 40% of the powder burns.
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Post by norseman1 on Nov 25, 2015 23:46:29 GMT -5
H4831 ?? I'm surprised you get ignition with that light of a load!! If you're sure it is 4831 that is probably a dirty load due to low pressure. edge. FYI Quickload predicts that less than 40% of the powder burns. I did not think I could load much heavier in a break action rifle.What kind of load should I be shooting?They are very accurate. |
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Post by mrbuck on Nov 26, 2015 8:48:37 GMT -5
H4831 does not seem to be the correct powder choice . Perhaps you mean H4198 ?
Chris
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Post by rambler on Nov 26, 2015 9:22:45 GMT -5
I'd go to 55gr of 4198 and see what happens. Maybe switch to Win209's also.
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Post by edge on Nov 26, 2015 11:31:24 GMT -5
I did not think I could load much heavier in a break action rifle.What kind of load should I be shooting?They are very accurate. IMO, you should look to other proven loads! 4831 is a very slow powder ( IN A 45 CALIBER ) assuming you are 110% sure that is what it is. The other suggestions would be much more appropriate for your load and gun...IMO  edge. |
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Post by norseman1 on Nov 26, 2015 12:20:18 GMT -5
H4831 does not seem to be the correct powder choice . Perhaps you mean H4198 ? Chris Yes,that is correct.I had a brain fart!!! |
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Post by norseman1 on Nov 26, 2015 12:22:30 GMT -5
I did not think I could load much heavier in a break action rifle.What kind of load should I be shooting?They are very accurate. IMO, you should look to other proven loads! 4831 is a very slow powder ( IN A 45 CALIBER ) assuming you are 110% sure that is what it is. The other suggestions would be much more appropriate for your load and gun...IMO edge. I miss spoke .It is H 4198. |
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