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Post by edge on Nov 13, 2015 19:03:53 GMT -5
Anyone want to join Obama and let 75,000 refugees into the US with no papers from the middle east?
IMO, Political Correctness over common sense!
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Post by rambler on Nov 13, 2015 19:12:52 GMT -5
I vote for open carry nation wide. Gives us guns like they give out cell phones. And with lots of ammo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 19:15:43 GMT -5
Anyone want to join Obama and let 75,000 refugees into the US with no papers from the middle east? IMO, Political Correctness over common sense! You know this is one thing that really scares me. How can the American people be so naive and think this okay. I realize we should love our neighbors but we should also use common sense to protect ourselves. Cannot wait till Trump is in office! |
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Post by rambler on Nov 13, 2015 19:39:22 GMT -5
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Nov 13, 2015 20:10:09 GMT -5
Worse part is that 90% of America doesn't even know or care what has happened. Start to raise some pigs and get ready to wrap some of these dead terrorists in a pig skin facing down 180 degrees away from Mecca. This will get way worse before it gets better. Wake up America. Wake the F up.
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Post by Richard on Nov 13, 2015 20:15:43 GMT -5
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Post by dannoboone on Nov 14, 2015 0:05:56 GMT -5
The news from Paris just has to be incorrect. After all, is it not illegal to own or carry a gun in France?? Do not the gun control/confiscation advocates tell us that violent crime will go away if we can become civilized enough to make gun ownership illegal here in the U.S.?? The story, therefore, must be fabricated. Can't blame it on ISIS, for we have contained them: www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/13/obama-isis-is-not-getting-stronger-we-have-contained-them/So fear not, go about your daily business. Our commander-in-thief has everything under control. We can trust his judgment. |
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Post by 1coyotemaster on Nov 14, 2015 8:00:03 GMT -5
I would almost be willing to let the refugees in....... if we could make an even trade for Obama and Hillary--I think they pose as much risk to our freedoms.
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Post by rambler on Nov 14, 2015 9:36:02 GMT -5
We have to make it very unpopular among that culture to join up with these thugs. In the interim, we have to go on a major offensive on all fronts. Take away their ability to command, coordinate, and wage their 'jihad'.
Eat less chicken and more pork for starters. I mean that.
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Post by edge on Nov 14, 2015 10:01:12 GMT -5
IMO, we need to go back to WWII war strategy and get out of the Pretend War strategy that we have used ever since! Why can Doctors Without Borders operate in forward zones and not think that they might get bombed? Why do we send ground forces into areas with large amounts of civilians that are likely to be sympathetic or even conspiring with our enemy? Ground forces should only go in to mop up the last remaining few AFTER the civilians get out or are presumed to be affiliated with the enemy and considered to be the same. A sniper in a church gets hit with with a tank round or an air attack brings it down on him...that is war! Our soldiers are more important than Our Presidents have treated them! If GW Bush's & Obama's daughters were sent to the front lines I am sure they would not have gone on house to house clearing operation! Instead of the Sergeants to Privates being on the front lines send the Majors to Generals in first and let's see how that strategy changes! Here is a picture of Saint-Lô a month after D-Day:  That is what war should look like if the enemy is not killed or captured! ![]() |
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Post by mrbuck on Nov 14, 2015 11:55:10 GMT -5
edge ...
You are 100% correct . We have to stop playing Pretend War and get the job done now . It's only getting worse . We knew what we had to do to Nazi Germany and Japan .
Chris
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Post by rambler on Nov 14, 2015 18:13:17 GMT -5
If any possible good could come from this terrible tragedy, maybe folks will wake up and start arming themselves.
This ISIL crap has got me spooked.
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Post by edge on Nov 14, 2015 21:09:41 GMT -5
If any possible good could come from this terrible tragedy, maybe folks will wake up and start arming themselves. This ISIL crap has got me spooked. Perhaps take away people's rights to have firearms. Clearly no guns no gun deaths...perhaps France should have made suicide belts illegal! PLEASE DON'T OFFEND ME...PC Police! |
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Post by sw on Nov 14, 2015 21:13:32 GMT -5
The Koran needs to be read by every American! Jihad is real! They are at war with the infidels, of which we are the chief infidels. They're just warming up over there.
If every American read and UNDERSTOOD the "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", "Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire", and the "Koran" there'd be no Democrats elected.
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Post by rambler on Nov 14, 2015 21:58:12 GMT -5
If any possible good could come from this terrible tragedy, maybe folks will wake up and start arming themselves. This ISIL crap has got me spooked. Perhaps take away people's rights to have firearms. Clearly no guns no gun deaths...perhaps France should have made suicide belts illegal! PLEASE DON'T OFFEND ME...PC Police! I am steadily stocking up |
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Post by al53 on Nov 15, 2015 8:10:49 GMT -5
As ISIS sympathizers grow world wide this will be a common occurrence..our country has plenty of them ...an incident like this can happen any time..now that the holiday season is among us...crowded malls and shopping areas and outside Hilday events are prime targets...they like large numbers...ISIS is a whole new breed of terrorists...they live to induce fear...as the pope said..this is world war III...our muslim pres was more concerned in world climate or gun control while the ISIS threat in the Mid east was growing daily...Like Edge pointed out...bomb an bomb and put the fear in them and then send the boots in to clean up...
ISIS is no joke...make Al Quida look like boy scouts
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Nov 15, 2015 16:15:33 GMT -5
ISIS is the JV team isn't it? We have problems Houston.
Start by closing GITMO. As a closing ceremony, cloak each prisoner in a fresh, warm, bloody pig skin. Have them watch the squealing, killing and skinning of the pig. Face them 180 Degrees from mecca. Lower them face down down 6 feet into a hole...alive. Slowly lower a 20 lb flat stone on their back and let a garden hose fill the hole while playing Christmas carols in Arabic. Video tape it and put it out on social media.
Nothing will stop this bull$hit except a response greater and more disgusting then theirs. Instead, we will be bombarded with candle light vigils, and weeping sheep. Clumsy politicians and weak hearted leaders.
This time is for the strong. Are there any strong left? Not sure.
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Post by gunny on Nov 16, 2015 14:25:47 GMT -5
I went to a major air show here in Wisconsin this year and was really surprised at lack of security,none,the gate people checking mostly if bringing in any alcohol. Many thousands in attendance made me nervous with no security . Had a family of mid eastern decent sitting right next to me ,spoke no english nice people or were they? A lot of military people there but none in a security capacity .
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Nov 17, 2015 17:39:39 GMT -5
Its gonna happen here....just when? And where? And how many targets?
God Bless America!
Drop
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 18, 2015 22:27:23 GMT -5
I've "red teamed" too many scenarios. You can break down targets into two categories, hard and soft. A hard target would be one with controlled access and a high level of security (you tried to get into any Federal court or office building recently). A soft target would have unrestricted access (public places) and low if any security (shopping malls, high school sports games). What ranks them of value would be the number of people you could get into the kill zone for the weapon of choice (the Boston Marathon). Supposedly for the Mumbai attacks it was chosen because of the low proficiency of the local authorities. So avoid big cities with well trained first responders, go for small town America.
Take a mall on black Friday, you have a couple of guys walk in with shopping bags containing small IEDs and just put them somewhere in the mall, the food court at lunchtime would be perfect. They pop at say 12:30, then as everyone freaks and runs for the exits to get out other teams have placed IEDs in trash cans at the exits which pop at 12:34. Then all the first responders and do-gooders rush in to help and there is a car bomb near each exit set for about 12:50. Doesn't have to be a whole lot of explosive but more a fire bomb. You can make napalm by melting polystyrene in gasoline and a good fire bomb would not only produce more casualties then a frag type for the amount of explosives used, it would also hamper aid reaching earlier casualties till the fires are put out.
Their purpose is to strike fear. Imagine if they did the above scenario at 2 or 3 high school football games across the country. How many people would attend next weeks game? Then if you want to really up the fear factor lets say a group takes over a movie theater or even a school room, after the original casualties they then live stream over the internet executing 20 or 30 people before any response can be staged.
I do play a pretty good bad guy...
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Post by rambler on Nov 19, 2015 7:49:45 GMT -5
I've "red teamed" too many scenarios. You can break down targets into two categories, hard and soft. A hard target would be one with controlled access and a high level of security (you tried to get into any Federal court or office building recently). A soft target would have unrestricted access (public places) and low if any security (shopping malls, high school sports games). What ranks them of value would be the number of people you could get into the kill zone for the weapon of choice (the Boston Marathon). Supposedly for the Mumbai attacks it was chosen because of the low proficiency of the local authorities. So avoid big cities with well trained first responders, go for small town America. Take a mall on black Friday, you have a couple of guys walk in with shopping bags containing small IEDs and just put them somewhere in the mall, the food court at lunchtime would be perfect. They pop at say 12:30, then as everyone freaks and runs for the exits to get out other teams have placed IEDs in trash cans at the exits which pop at 12:34. Then all the first responders and do-gooders rush in to help and there is a car bomb near each exit set for about 12:50. Doesn't have to be a whole lot of explosive but more a fire bomb. You can make napalm by melting polystyrene in gasoline and a good fire bomb would not only produce more casualties then a frag type for the amount of explosives used, it would also hamper aid reaching earlier casualties till the fires are put out. Their purpose is to strike fear. Imagine if they did the above scenario at 2 or 3 high school football games across the country. How many people would attend next weeks game? Then if you want to really up the fear factor lets say a group takes over a movie theater or even a school room, after the original casualties they then live stream over the internet executing 20 or 30 people before any response can be staged. I do play a pretty good bad guy... Can you hear the rotors??  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 8:58:46 GMT -5
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 19, 2015 10:01:01 GMT -5
Look out,, Now that I've turned 60 I may go for my dirty old man certification.
You have to realize any group of 20 to 50 people in a confined area could be looked at as a target for a suicide bomber with a explosive vest. Then the soft targets could be restaurants, small sporting events and small concerts (less security then major events), schools (if your lucky one cop to deal with), even churches during services.
I hear "terrorist can't come in the US, they would be stopped at the border", if 11 million "undocumented workers" made it in it can't be too hard. Then there is "they couldn't smuggle in bombs or weapons", if you can smuggle in a bale of marijuana or cocaine you can smuggle in anything. Locally they just busted a Mexican that has been deported 3 times before, he had rented like several houses and between them they found like a million dollars worth of heroin, almost a half million in cash and a small weapons cache.
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Post by edge on Nov 19, 2015 12:38:44 GMT -5
I don't need any convincing that our President does not have America's best interest in mind when he makes decisions!
Why would you transport "refugees" 1/2 way around the world from country's with low standards of living to a country with one of the highest?
You could probably support 20 refugees somewhere in the Middle east for the same cost here in America and you could build valuable infrastructure there to help the country's that accept them as well as hire locals which would strengthen the local governments!
I see zero value in bringing them here and only downside!
I think that both houses should pass a bill refusing the President authority to bringing them here... yes he will veto...but the People should let it be known that if any terrorist action come about by those he lets in that we will demand his impeachment!
PS if you bring them here then resettle them in Georgetown, Central Park West, or Martha's Vineyard!
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Post by rambler on Nov 19, 2015 13:30:18 GMT -5
Let the Saudis or Kuwaiti deal with them. They have gotten obscenely rich on the backs of the American public. Congress controls the budget wallet. It won't get funded.
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Post by al53 on Nov 20, 2015 13:38:24 GMT -5
I hope the vote to keep the Syrians out of the country holds up....Isis is on a role now....said there will be attacks in the US and NYC was named as a spot....seems they love big gatherings of people so thier dirty work has high numbers...a few top CIA an FBI are afraid they are working on either chemical or biological weapons....they have been know to be trying to recruit chemists..
plus that have been intercepting Syrians in other countries trying to get here...the next few months are going to be trying times for the USA with the threats said against us...the Pres still says they are contained...
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Post by rambler on Nov 21, 2015 10:24:58 GMT -5
The new Isis Load  |
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Post by ourway77 on Dec 5, 2015 14:36:47 GMT -5
My saying on my posts says it all
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Post by rambler on Dec 8, 2015 9:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by stanb8 on Dec 8, 2015 13:45:14 GMT -5
When you rewrite history so it socially acceptable it is destined to repeat itself. The powers to be in the last 10 years remind me of the time period when Chamberlain was prime minister of Great Britain leading up to WW2. The only chance this country has with the prevailing winds is the ability of the American people to arm themselves and work together when the time comes and things fall apart due to the inability of our government to understand surviving is more important than hurting someone's feelings. A lot of people have suffered and died for our freedoms and we have people now who don't realize they wouldn't be free if not for the constitution and the bill of rights.
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