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Post by edge on Jan 21, 2009 12:38:04 GMT -5
NJ is going crossbow in 2009. I don't know if I'll get one or not...probably Any good suggestions? edge.
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Post by smokeless77 on Jan 21, 2009 21:06:41 GMT -5
edge, is ther going to be a special season for the crossbow or will it be in with archery season. john.
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Post by edge on Jan 22, 2009 9:00:30 GMT -5
Supposedly just the regular archery season. You pick whatever weapon you want, traditional, compound, or crossbow!
edge.
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Post by jims on Jan 22, 2009 12:53:53 GMT -5
I would not suggest this but PSE has one someone mentioned that attaches to the bottom receiver of an AR-15 and uses that trigger group and shoots at 400 plus feet per second. A little "Buck Rogers" to me plus about $1200 I think.
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Post by edge on Jan 22, 2009 13:05:44 GMT -5
I would not suggest this but PSE has one someone mentioned that attaches to the bottom receiver of an AR-15 and uses that trigger group and shoots at 400 plus feet per second. A little "Buck Rogers" to me plus about $1200 I think. 1,299 PLUS you need the AR-15 lower!! www.pse-archery.com/prod.php?k=55444&u=01135edge.
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Post by smokeless77 on Jan 22, 2009 13:07:48 GMT -5
I see alot of the 10x bows everyone is using on all the hunting shows. I dont no to much about them. maybe they will do something like that here in westchester n.y.
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Post by kevin k on Jan 22, 2009 15:24:11 GMT -5
i use a crossbow i got mine a few years ago ive killed alot of deer with it i have a ten point they have great customer service i tryed alot it felt the best and they perform made in usa or Excalibur out of canada they are your best and fastest for the price but they also can get high doller but are well worth it id go with ten point if you want to know more i know alot about crossbows that and bow were all i used for all seasons till i just got a omega then ran into this site and got a 10ml2 now i have to learn that gun and thats why im here i can help with crossbow but your helping me with savage havent shot it yet will soon thanks ps let us know what you get kevin
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Post by edge on Jan 22, 2009 15:37:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the input on the 10 point Good luck with the Savage. edge.
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Post by edge on Jan 22, 2009 15:38:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the input on the 10 point Good luck with the Savage. edge.
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Post by huntingmike on Jan 22, 2009 21:06:03 GMT -5
I have used my Exomax for three years now and for the money it is a great bow for the price. I have about $800 total in my equipment ill.scope, mounts, quiver , bolts, claw sling and broadheads. It shoots about 350 feet. It is as simple to operate as it could be. Several of my friends shoot them as well. One friend shot a pass through on a doe at 82 yards. My longest shot has been 40 yards (dead in 30 yards.) MIke
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Post by dougedwards on Jan 23, 2009 8:42:23 GMT -5
I have used my Exomax for three years now and for the money it is a great bow for the price. I have about $800 total in my equipment ill.scope, mounts, quiver , bolts, claw sling and broadheads. It shoots about 350 feet. It is as simple to operate as it could be. Several of my friends shoot them as well. One friend shot a pass through on a doe at 82 yards. My longest shot has been 40 yards (dead in 30 yards.) MIke +1 for the Excalibur Exomax. Positives are that the crossbow is very simple having a recurve configuration. No cams. If you happen to fray your string in the field you can easily restring right there. It is also very light in weight at 6.5 lbs and shoots with very little vibration. I am able to follow my arrow all the way to the target using a Burris FastFire reflex sight. This helps with accuracy and also knowing exactly where you may have hit your living target. The one negative is that the crosswbow is rather wide and that can be a problem if hunting from a treestand or reloading in a confined space. But for me simpler is better and I practice reloading in a treestand in my back yard. It is second nature now. Yes Mike.........God Almighty is good.....all of the time! Doug
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Post by edge on Jan 23, 2009 8:52:13 GMT -5
SNIP , claw sling and broadheads. SNIP The claw sling is for drawing the bow correct. Instead of a stirrup or other spanning device? edge.
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Post by kevin k on Jan 23, 2009 11:54:01 GMT -5
i still would go with ten point much better stock thumb hole on all of them more compact there accra draw is much better gear reduction makes my 175# 5# cranking it is mounted on stock recessed in out of way i have had both i like the compound much better its faster then my recurve at same weight shorter limbs way nicer in woods American made great customer service like savage if you need to send in. same country not out of country less time better quality we also need to support American jobs you would not be sorry i did a very lot of testing with a lot of xbows i lost track of animals i killed with it i use 100 grain spitfires have killed deer with every shot you can take quartered away ,to,down spine,strait on shoulder,have got all the deer on allshots 30 yards have shot 50 but not at deer any one taking 50 plus yard shot on a deer is not ethical to many variables wind sticks the deer stepping forward your only going 300 to 350 max feet per sec not good no wonder people dont like bow hunters with shots that far a lot of wounded deer you have to be one shot one kill that 85 yard is wrong both companys suggest 40 yard max on large game i might sound pushy but thats because been there done that i want you to be happy for years to come my ecomax sat after my 10 point came its still a joy to shoot feels more like my guns find them both and get them in your hands youll see kevin
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Post by edge on Jan 23, 2009 14:29:19 GMT -5
Which 10 point do you have?
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Post by kevin k on Jan 23, 2009 16:24:54 GMT -5
edge i have the shadow cls and also the woodsmen plus the woodsmen is 9 years old and still performs like new its replaced with the titian which is entery level which still is better than most advanced level xbows the triggers are awesome 3.5 to 4 pounds feels like a rifle trigger is lighter than my savage trigger and very smooth punch in ten point crossbows and or forums there are followings like for the savage recommend by most hunters kevin ps i would recommended their 3 line scope it has a 20 30 and 40 yard line good optics very clear i have also used hortens scope which has lines up to 60 yards but like i said to far on deer. target yes deer no theres only 80 to95 pounds of energy after reading your posts i know you know about energy you tell me and thats at 20 yards thanks and with my 1st one still has same cables i replace my string every 2 years wither it need it or not ive droped mine 20 ft out of tree no prob got luckey but you shouldnt have string prob ever unless you neglect you bow
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Post by Dave W on Jan 23, 2009 17:20:58 GMT -5
The two most popular brands with the people I know are Tenpoint and Excalibur. None of the guys complain about either brand, all seem satisfied with what they have. Best bet is to go to a shop and shoot what is available to decide. If you do a lot of walking to a stand, weight and width should be of some concern, they are cumbersome to carry in the woods, especially if you hunt thick tangled areas.
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Post by ozark on Jan 23, 2009 20:55:33 GMT -5
Go for one edge. They are fun and will do the job. Ozark
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Post by huntingmike on Jan 23, 2009 21:25:04 GMT -5
Edge, The claw sling is a brand name sling. They make them for crossbows and guns. It has a very good non slip feature. I have them on all my rifles as well.
A tip for anyone who has trouble carrying a crossbow. I mount my sling to carry the bow cocking stirrup down and use the sling securing clip fastened to my belt loop to pull the limbs to point the direction I am walking. I there for can walk hands free to the stand or even carry a portable stand to a new location with out much trouble of hanging the limbs on any thing as I walk. Rev. Mike
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Post by huntingmike on Jan 23, 2009 21:41:23 GMT -5
Kevin, I have hunted deer a long time and have heard all the stories of the anti's as well. If you hunt long enough you will wound one at less than twenty. It is a terrible thing but it happens. Each person has to decide what he and his equipment can do at the given time. I will tell you though that some people are more capable than others with the same equipment. I know some people who are more accurate than I am. I will tell you that I have seen some shoot better at longer ranges than most can shoot at twenty. A very sharp broad head will cleanly kill from a long way! It is hard to shoot in heavy cover more than a few feet one small twig and it can lead to terrible results. My friend was shooting in an open field as do I a lot of times. Do not doubt that in his hands his shot was more risky than yours at low light in heavy cover. My humble opinion for which I have given. Rev. Mike
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Post by kevin k on Jan 24, 2009 17:38:51 GMT -5
rev mike i just dont want people thinking they can norm take 85 yard shot people try to compare xbow to guns i hear it all the time how you get deer because you have a crossbow or there more like a gun than a bow which is far from the truth after 40 yards they lose a lot of energy fast unlike compound bows be cause of draw length more power stroke flatter shooting not saying cant be done but sure is risky must have been aiming at the sky ive been shooting xbows for years tried all types of arrows broadheads that had to be a great shot i wont try farther then 45 or 50 thats just me though i can wait for better shots i get 4 to 5 a year and inside af 30 i dont lose none because i wait for a for sure shoot thanks kevin
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Post by huntingmike on Jan 25, 2009 22:01:06 GMT -5
Kevin, Thanks for the reply. A little trick with my vari zone scope. Instead of looking at the sky. I can get 4" groups at 75 yards holding POA at center X by dialing down the foot per second dial all the way to the slowest foot per second setting on my scope and using the 50 yard dot (on a still day of course). The arch is for open fields not for the woods. I have taken as many as 9 deer in one year as we have a 3 a day limit for the entire season and I have taken a days limit of 3 many times out of one tree. I have never shot further than 50 yards but I believe if I do it would be an ethical shot. I would never attempt a long shot like that in the woods because they do not shoot like guns as you have said. A lot of people who shoot compounds and other bows when using sights fail to account for the arch of the arrow path. This mistake has caused poor shots for a lot of shooters. Probably second only to the adrenalin rush called "Buck Fever". I am blessed to get the shakes only after the shot. Rev. Mike
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