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Post by rambler on Jul 23, 2015 14:07:34 GMT -5
Finally got some Barnes 250GR TEZ's along with another lb. of 4759. Now it's a waiting game for this heat wave to subside.
The bullets look good, hope they shoot as good as they look.
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Post by 03mossy on Jul 23, 2015 15:52:57 GMT -5
great bullets your going to love them!
And your right about this heat, I wanted to shoot on my lunch break. Took 2 steps to my truck and said no way!
And that sure is a unique Muzzleloader in the back ground...
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Post by rambler on Jul 23, 2015 16:00:26 GMT -5
Just an ordinary wheel gun
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Post by Richard on Jul 23, 2015 19:57:53 GMT -5
Wimpy, Wimpy, Wimpy! Do you stop hunting in the winter because its cold?  |
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Post by rambler on Jul 23, 2015 20:05:34 GMT -5
Wimpy, Wimpy, Wimpy! Do you stop hunting in the winter because its cold? C'mon on down Richard and we'll see how long you last in it  The barrel heat is the issue to be serious about it.
Some of us don't have the luxury of heated and cooled shooting booth/s. I envy you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 23:30:41 GMT -5
Finally got some Barnes 250GR TEZ's along with another lb. of 4759. Now it's a waiting game for this heat wave to subside.
The bullets look good, hope they shoot as good as they look.
What combo are you starting with those TEZ's? Zen |
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Post by cuda on Jul 24, 2015 0:13:39 GMT -5
My son shoot the 290gr TEZ .451 and loves them real deer killers! We shoot them unsized in a 45 McGowen Stevens 200.
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Post by rambler on Jul 24, 2015 6:43:37 GMT -5
I'd like to start out with 10/50 of SR4759/IMR4198. Bullets sized to a medium one handed push down the barrel using a .060 veggie and Win primers.
I may order some of the 290's as well depending on how these perform.
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Post by bigiron on Jul 24, 2015 7:04:07 GMT -5
Anyone have a 290gr. they could send me for fit test in my barrel. I have a Slufoot conversion on a TC Custom Shop 45-70 and would like to see if I could shoot these sabotless/unsized.
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Post by rangeball on Jul 24, 2015 8:36:43 GMT -5
Anyone have a 290gr. they could send me for fit test in my barrel. I have a Slufoot conversion on a TC Custom Shop 45-70 and would like to see if I could shoot these sabotless/unsized. I would if I did, but don't have any TEZs of any weight at the moment. Which bullets are you shooting now? Do they fit well unsized? |
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Post by Richard on Jul 24, 2015 12:44:05 GMT -5
Several readings around a new (from Luke) 290 TEZ with my Starrett micrometer show between .4500" to .4501"
Richard
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Post by rambler on Jul 24, 2015 12:46:36 GMT -5
Several readings around a new (from Luke) 290 TEZ with my Starrett micrometer show between .4500" to .4501" Richard That would be about a perfect fit down my barrel. |
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jul 24, 2015 12:57:59 GMT -5
Dangit Rambler ...go let some of these.fly so I can get some input...and decide
Drop
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Post by rambler on Jul 24, 2015 13:20:28 GMT -5
Dangit Rambler ...go let some of these.fly so I can get some input...and decide Drop
Both temps are in the shade. I ain't doin' nothing outside in this action. Plus it's like 80% humidity....Brazilian rain forest hot And no end in the near future. I may not get a chance before you guys have the shoot out.
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jul 24, 2015 13:35:15 GMT -5
Sweat towel...short sleeve britches and Tank top. Sweet tea....Cooling rod and cooler just like any other day at the range in the summer. Come on Rambler You can do it!
Drop
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jul 24, 2015 13:39:20 GMT -5
Send some of them bullets to Cowhunter...he can get us a reading.on them. We got the same weather as he does all summer long. I would.offee ...but its.only 82' here right now...and it wouldnt be a good comparison for the Kentucky shoot...plus.the fact.that I would make national headlines for shooting while here at work
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Post by rambler on Jul 24, 2015 13:41:48 GMT -5
Sweat towel...short sleeve britches and Tank top. Sweet tea....Cooling rod and cooler just like any other day at the range in the summer. Come on Rambler You can do it! Drop I want you look at this click on more days at the bottom of page
www.intellicast.com/Local/Forecast.aspx?location=USAR0003
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 14:20:31 GMT -5
Friday 7/31 cools down and it should be like shooting in the fall.  |
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Post by bigiron on Jul 24, 2015 18:05:07 GMT -5
Anyone have a 290gr. they could send me for fit test in my barrel. I have a Slufoot conversion on a TC Custom Shop 45-70 and would like to see if I could shoot these sabotless/unsized. I would if I did, but don't have any TEZs of any weight at the moment. Which bullets are you shooting now? Do they fit well unsized? I've hunting with the .400 190gr Expader in a light blue sabot. I would like to try the 290gr TEZ sabotless. I just don't want to spend the $ for a pack and find they are too tight or too loose. |
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Post by rambler on Jul 24, 2015 18:54:56 GMT -5
I would if I did, but don't have any TEZs of any weight at the moment. Which bullets are you shooting now? Do they fit well unsized? I've hunting with the .400 190gr Expader in a light blue sabot. I would like to try the 290gr TEZ sabotless. I just don't want to spend the $ for a pack and find they are too tight or too loose. You need a sizing die  |
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Post by Richard on Jul 25, 2015 9:56:22 GMT -5
I'm getting to be an old man waiting for Rambler and Cowhunter to post anything that resembles a target? Forget those thermometer pictures and do some shooting! Use a "cool rod" if you want to keep barrel temp's down? We have gotten past the "warm barrel/sabot thing" so that excuse is down the drain? Without going too far, you get my point! Richard |
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Post by rambler on Jul 25, 2015 10:17:48 GMT -5
getting to be old??? besides the age you are seriously crotchety, if that's a word. Your getting those 250's today so it's gonna be just fine I don't have a cooling rod, and without me going too far, this child ain't going out in this %$&@'ing heat I realize we are just messing with each other, but dude it would be impossible for anyone with any cooling equipment to shoot a mz outside here. I"m jonesin' to shoot some as bad as anyone. When it cools down I'll post some of my attempts at target shooting. Sorry for any inconvenience Richard. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 10:46:40 GMT -5
Dickie was once the worlds premier benchrest shooter, you will never compare Steve. Why try!
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Post by rambler on Jul 25, 2015 11:06:08 GMT -5
Dickie was once the worlds premier benchrest shooter, you will never compare Steve. Why try! With the only exception of sighting in and trying new loads I'm not a bench rest shooter, never claimed to be. I deal in real time situations and only compete with myself. He just want's me to try out those 250TEZ's. An inch either way and the deer will never know the difference. |
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Post by mrbuck on Jul 25, 2015 19:29:35 GMT -5
" Dickie " is STILL a world premier benchrest shooter ! Back in his home state is name is still mentioned with respect . Someone at my gun club leaves Precision Shooting magazines from the 70's for us youngsters
( under 70 ) to read . Our very own Richard's name and great shooting scores are more that often at the very top of the list . Would not want to shoot in a match against him ... not on my best day . Back in the day
New Jersey produced some World Class shooters ... Dr. Palmissano of the PPC fame , Geza Nagy , Bob White to name a few . Richard was lucky enough to escape . I'd put my money on richard , edge or dave d at any muzzleloader shoot !!!
Chris
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Post by rambler on Jul 25, 2015 19:51:15 GMT -5
Richards expertise at benchrest shooting is certainly irreproachable. Where the notion came that I could "compare" to him is beyond me. Just some underlying schadenfreude I guess  |
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Post by Richard on Jul 25, 2015 20:01:21 GMT -5
Thanks for your kind words Chris. Its a shame most hunters, shooters and gun people in general have not had the experience of attending a real bench rest match---whether short or long range. They would be amazed at the useful tips they could pick up. Believe me, I had been there and done that and got hooked on precision. I was amazed at the size of the groups I saw shot and wanted to be a part of it. This muzzle loading is just another extension of that passion and I try to inject some of what I have learned in CF with the muzzle loader.
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Post by Richard on Jul 25, 2015 20:03:08 GMT -5
Steve..............that was Mr. Cole's remark.
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Post by rambler on Jul 25, 2015 20:04:03 GMT -5
Steve..............that was Mr. Cole's remark. I know |
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Post by cowhunter on Jul 29, 2015 13:16:58 GMT -5
we have record temperatures in Hawaii. The humidity is 300 percent. Lucky we have trade winds. What did Barnes call the 250 grain all-copper bullets with the little boat tails? spitfire? I wonder if they shoot as well as the TEZ? I should send you a few to test. Back when I shot a .50 cal Savage I stocked up on them.
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The barrel heat is the issue to be serious about it.
