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Post by tnhunter on Jun 29, 2015 13:32:54 GMT -5
Has anybody ever done any reduced BH loads in a 45 caliber before? Do you guys think there is much recoil difference between a 45 and 50? I'm looking for the mildest recoiling gun that I can get for a youth. I'm only looking to be affective out to 75 yards max.
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Post by rambler on Jun 29, 2015 13:36:31 GMT -5
If a 40 cal is legal in your state that might be an option. I know myers129 made one for ohioguy's daughter. You might want to contact one or both of those gentlemen for further advice if interested.
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Post by tnhunter on Jun 29, 2015 14:09:38 GMT -5
In Tennessee anything 36 caliber and larger is legal but I know very little about a 40cal.
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Post by encore50a on Jun 29, 2015 15:05:02 GMT -5
I know a number of guys have used 50grs with lighter bullets, I believe 180grs and the kids are handling it very well.
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Post by ronlaughlin on Jun 29, 2015 20:07:56 GMT -5
Though i have never done it myself, it seems that about 70g Blackhorn and a light XTP bullet should work good. Even the 200g SST/shockwave should be OK. That is where i would start if there were any kids still home. A load such as these, should be deadly at 75 yard.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Jun 30, 2015 9:25:44 GMT -5
I would have to agree, Somewhere between 60-80grV of BH209 and a 200gr XTP in a 45cal would be very mild but plenty lethal. IIRC Hornady lists the 40-180gr XTP at slightly higher recommended fps than the 200gr XTP.
You may also look into the copper Knight 175gr Redhot and the Barnes 155gr TAC-XP. I tinkered a little with the 155gr TAC-XP and recoil is very very mild. It did quite well on media with 80grV loads.
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Post by triplese7en on Jun 30, 2015 10:12:51 GMT -5
prbullet.com has lead Dead Center and Polymer Tip offerings in 180-200 grains using a 50/40 sabot. 75 grains would be plenty and quite lethal at 75 yards.
You can also pursue copper-clad pistol bullets in 180-200 grains, then just add the 50/40 plastic sabot (most likely blue color). Purchase them as places like harvestermuzzleloading.com.
XTPs in 45-cal 180 grains and Barnes Expanders in 40-cal 195 grains are popular choices too.
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Post by 10ga on Jul 2, 2015 10:50:45 GMT -5
The physics say with same bullet weight and same powder load and same gun weight = less recoil in the 50. My daughter shot 50 gr of 1.5 F Swiss and 180 gr patched roundball or 223 gr belted bullet in 50 slamfire with no problem and she is even now only a slight 105 lbs. that was 10 years back and she was under 75 lb. Something equal with BH209 should be deadly out to 75 yd easy. 10 ga
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Post by tnhunter on Jul 4, 2015 7:23:55 GMT -5
Well I guess my question should have been if you guys had the chance to buy a 45 or a 50 for the purpose of youth only which one would you guys go with?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:51:25 GMT -5
Well I guess my question should have been if you guys had the chance to buy a 45 or a 50 for the purpose of youth only which one would you guys go with? CVA Accura V2, or CVA Apex in a 45 and shoot it with 200 gr .452 SST's with BH 209 for a youth. When they get a lil bigger jump em up to the 250 SST sabotless. Been there and done that with great success. JMO
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Post by GMB54-120 on Jul 4, 2015 14:48:13 GMT -5
Do they still offer the Accura V2 in 45cal?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 14:53:14 GMT -5
Not sure about that, I haven't kept up with them since I sold all of mine and went smokeless. I know my Accura V2 in .45 was a super shooter, shooting sabotless loads. Dry swab between shots and that thing would stack em on top of each other all day.
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