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Post by jims on Jun 28, 2015 8:03:30 GMT -5
I may get a Savage Lady Hunter for my daughter. The first photos I saw had the recoil pad on at a rakish angle it said for better fit. The newer photos seem to show a standard angle on the recoil pad. Anyone know if a change was made or is this just a photo thing?
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Post by rossman40 on Jun 28, 2015 11:03:06 GMT -5
Savage came out with the stock that had all the design features for the woman shooter. If they changed it or are just renaming a youth stock now I do not know. I haven't seen one recently.
I helped build a rifle stock for a buddies wife. To get a good and comfortable fit for a woman is a bit more then just getting a youth stock or youth model gun. We cheated and had a talk with George Wenig while he was at the Grand American to get some pointers. When it comes to stock fit shotgunners know all the secrets. If shooting from the bench stock fit isn't that important but when shooting offhand (standing non-supported) sight acquisition and felt recoil changes. Then there is the "snap shot" ability, when a person quickly brings the rifle to their shoulder and there is no having to adjust for a sight picture and the gun is pointed where they want it. For the woman they normally have a smaller stature so a shorter Length Of Pull (LOP) is just one thing. Women tend to have longer necks then men so a higher/offset comb and/or a larger drop at the heel helps. Then there is the issue of breasts, to adjust for that you can add some cast-off to the stock to get around them. Breast tissue goes all the way up into the armpit so to make the recoil a bit more bearable some toe-out is added.
George offered to personally fit a custom riflestock for his wife if they wanted to come to the shop in Missouri (he does this for shotgunners all the time). To save on time and cost we decided to try it ourselves. We found a wood youth stock and went with a cheek pad and then added a Graco adjustable butt plate. After a bit of adjustment she was happy with the .243 and has even added a 7mm-08 since.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Jun 28, 2015 12:32:37 GMT -5
I thought his name was Fred Wenig. I used to buy a lot of the New American 2-piece sets when I worked in the gunshop; our range was one of the biggest clay target ranges in Texas and they were the most popular stock set for clay target guns. His designs are generally pretty good. The New American has a closed grip, parallel comb, a touch of cast off, and toe out. They worked well for women too with a little drop added and a different pitch. Now he even has a "women's" stock that is like the New Am'. A little bit of rasping a patterning board made those guns pretty righteous.
I've been considering getting into 3-Gun and if I do I will be ordering another.
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Post by rossman40 on Jun 28, 2015 15:21:48 GMT -5
You know your right,, senior moment,, it was Fred. Then there was Elbert who was like his shop foreman, hard to forget an Elbert. Too many Georges around.
Being at a big clays range in Texas, you ever run into Jess Briley he is a big skeet shooter and him and Cliff would come up to the Grand American. Their booth was just down from Wenigs.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Jun 28, 2015 16:46:04 GMT -5
I know the guy by name and reputation but didn't know him. We hosted mostly Sporting Clay events. The prior owner had been really big into skeet and trap but around our area that was only a sport for 4H by the mid 90s. I knew a fistful of the big Sporting Clay shooters but shotgun was never really my thing although I shot it for about 8 years because it was something to do. I have always been a disciple of the rifle and pistol even though the scatter gun guys said it was a sport for weirdos.
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Post by rossman40 on Jun 29, 2015 16:30:07 GMT -5
I've shot a few 3-gun matches in the past but never went on that campaign trail. Some are too much run-n-gun for this old fart. Seems you got to be more track star then shooter, more so with the ones out west where they got a lot of room for a stage. Most clubs in the east shoot most of the match in pistol pits with a couple of stages requiring you to stretch out with the rifle to 100 and maybe 200yds. A club with a lot of room can get more creative.
Competitions do help you shoot faster and most of the time, more accurately, but as the IPSC shooters like to say, "If you can't shoot well, shoot often".
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